Jason Campbell pulled his hammy

[goredskins1983]

wow great comeback.

[MPNRedskins]

Hopefully, it doesn't linger through the season.

[LandrySlice]

The Z man isin't worried about it, so neither am I

[chrisl4064]

Originally Posted by goredskins1983

campbell is a deadbeat loser. his record as a starter sucks. his QB rating sucks. he throws untimely INTs (TB and Dallas games). he has shown NO improvement year to year. let me guess, you probably liked ramsey too, right? The QB position requires brains as well as skill...you put in Collins and he goes 4-1. No superbowl, but Campbell was 4-6 as a started including a win against AZ in which the Skins had 178 yards of total offense and used the D to win. wow thats great, let me tell you. I want to win now, and I want the guy who can get wins. You may like a 4-6 record, and perhaps you used to be an ex Lions or ex Cardinals fan? lucky for you, there was a coaching change, else, Gibbs and Saunders would have kept Collins as a starter for next year.

Every QB every year will throw costly and untimely int's, thats part of the game. Did JC happen to run over your dog this weekend or something?

[goredskins1983]

7 -12 record as a starter and a QB rating thats been in the bottom third of the league the last 2 years isint going to get us any NFC east crowns....

i just want to win

and im sorry, he's not a diamond in the rough......

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by goredskins1983

campbell is a deadbeat loser. his record as a starter sucks. his QB rating sucks. he throws untimely INTs (TB and Dallas games). he has shown NO improvement year to year. let me guess, you probably liked ramsey too, right? The QB position requires brains as well as skill...you put in Collins and he goes 4-1. No superbowl, but Campbell was 4-6 as a started including a win against AZ in which the Skins had 178 yards of total offense and used the D to win. wow thats great, let me tell you. I want to win now, and I want the guy who can get wins. You may like a 4-6 record, and perhaps you used to be an ex Lions or ex Cardinals fan? lucky for you, there was a coaching change, else, Gibbs and Saunders would have kept Collins as a starter for next year.

Are you serious or just trolling? Let's look at some facts:

Todd Collins is a career back-up. He QB'd games against the Bears (lots of rain), Giants (wind storm), Vikings, and Cowboys (resting for playoffs). He threw for 156 against the Giants, 261 against the Vikes, 223 against the Cowboys. Our D was playing very well in those four games and those are not stellar passing numbers. Collins played solid and came through in those games to his credit. However after a few weeks of film on him, Seattle made him look pretty bad and I recall a couple of "untimely interceptions" in that game.

You imply that Campbell lacks "brains". I would say the Wonderlic test is a good raw indicator of "brains". Campbell scored a 28. Lets look at some other "smart" QBs: Hasselbeck - 29, Peyton Manning - 25, Marc Bulger - 29, Drew Brees - 28, Carson Palmer - 26, Tom Brady - 33. Not only is your statement insulting, it's flat-out wrong. Before you make statements like that you should check your facts so you don't appear to lack "brains".

A 77.6 QB rating, while not stellar, surely doesn't "suck". Campbell has shown improvement year-to-year even with a rookie QB coach. His Yards per Game went from 185 to 207. His completion % went from 53.1 to 60. His Int % dropped from 2.9 to 2.6 (7th best in the NFL).

Campbell is basically entering his sophomore season, having started only 19 games. If you look at Matt Hasselbeck in his first 12 games he had a 54.8 completion % and a 70.9 QB rating. The next seaon he started 12 games and improved to 63.7 completion % and an 87.8 rating. The following season he was a Pro-Bowl caliber QB, posting a 61 completion % and a 91.4 QB rating. Campbell has better physical skills, a stronger arm and the same "brains" as Hasselbeck. With Zorn mentoring and developing JC, expect him to be playing at a Pro Bowl level towards the end of this season or early next season.

Also, No way Gibbs would've made Collins the starter had he stayed either.

[prinzeofmoval]

Originally Posted by LMsexyAO

Assuming that does happen (which I highly believe it wont), don't you think TODD COLLINS, the proven backup and team leader, will lead the team to the playoffs, not the unproven, 6th round draft pick rookie who has never so much as play a down of professional football in his life?

Dude thats Fantasy okay not reality..But i do think Colt is the Qb of the future...A Passion Project if you will. I'm not sold on JC really. He had a few okay games last year but not a 1st round draft level thats for sure. Who has good seasons first year starting? Big Ben, Phillip Rivers and Tom Brady all has.

[NYCskinfan82]

JC will prove he is the man, this WC system will suit him much better, wait and see

[goredskins1983]

slingin sammy - a 77 QB rating is below average. its in the bottom third of the league. His rating was 77 the previous year which means he is showing no improvement. collins may not be the answer, but he would feel more confident in him running an offense.

and for every hasselback there is a patrick ramsey and heath shuler

[Dantheskinsfan]

they ran a WCO at Auburn when he was there, no?

[chrisl4064]

Originally Posted by goredskins1983

slingin sammy - a 77 QB rating is below average. its in the bottom third of the league. His rating was 77 the previous year which means he is showing no improvement. collins may not be the answer, but he would feel more confident in him running an offense.

and for every hasselback there is a patrick ramsey and heath shuler

Are you saying that if right now you had to choose a starting QB to take us through the year you would go with Collins over Campbell?

you just need to respond with a yes or no, no explanation needed.

[goredskins1983]

chris140-64 just scroll through the thread to see my stance

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by prinzeofmoval

Dude thats Fantasy okay not reality..But i do think Colt is the Qb of the future...A Passion Project if you will. I'm not sold on JC really. He had a few okay games last year but not a 1st round draft level thats for sure. Who has good seasons first year starting? Big Ben, Phillip Rivers and Tom Brady all has.

Are you serious with Big Ben and Phillip Rivers? Tom Brady, is an exception because at the time NE didn't have a very good running game. But as for the other 2 they only passed when they had to they both relied on their teams running game. I mean Ben had games in his first year where he only had 9 or 10 attempts in a game. Tell me a game where Ben or Rivers put the team on his back and won the game through the air. I am pretty sure that you can't. Because either the other teams shut down the running game or it was the running game that won it for Ben or Rivers...

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

Are you serious with Big Ben and Phillip Rivers? Tom Brady, is an exception because at the time NE didn't have a very good running game. But as for the other 2 they only passed when they had to they both relied on their teams running game. I mean Ben had games in his first year where he only had 9 or 10 attempts in a game. Tell me a game where Ben or Rivers put the team on his back and won the game through the air. I am pretty sure that you can't. Because either the other teams shut down the running game or it was the running game that won it for Ben or Rivers...

A thoughtful comeback, and something that crossed my mind as well. Of course, I had trouble taking much of what he said seriously after he said "Colt Brennan is the future".

[DiehardSkin88]

Cambells still to young to be throwing him under the bus.. if cambell does well this year guarantee we wont see your dumbass on the board anymore. And your right he's not a diamond in the rough, we got him in the first round