JGR: Stewart Wrecks #11 Denny Hamlin

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I suspect that more people are upset by his comments than his actions. But anyhow, on to Chicago

That's true...but since he didn't wreck my guy, or my team, I am only concerned with his poor driving on the track cause the next time it could be Gordon.

I know this is off the subject, but maybe you know the answer. How come Jeff's last name is Gordon, and his parents last name is like Bickman or something like that?

[SmootSmack]

You're probably thinking of his step-dad, John Bickford. Not his biological dad but basically raised him from what I know.

Honestly, Gordon and Junior are two guys I don't really know, so I won't make unsubstantiated comments about either of them. I've heard mixed reviews of both.

So far the most genuine and universally liked guy I've encountered has been Jeff Burton

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You're probably thinking of his step-dad, John Bickford. Not his biological dad but basically raised him from what I know.

Honestly, Gordon and Junior are two guys I don't really know, so I won't make unsubstantiated comments about either of them. I've heard mixed reviews of both.

So far the most genuine and universally liked guy I've encountered has been Jeff Burton

Did you watch 24x24? It was very interesting to hear people speak so highly of Jeff Gordon. Seems like a very down to earth funloving guy.
I don't know any drivers personally, so I really don't know who is naughty and who is nice. I have heard that Burton was a nice guy before, and honestly, I make my opinion about a person through his performance on the track, not about his actually personality. I will never KNOW these people, so my opinions are stictly due to talent. I dislike only 2 people, Stewart and Montoya. I dislike them as people, but them as NASCAR drivers. I really want to like JGR but can't get past Stewart. I'm thrilled that Lil E is coming to Hendrick!

[jsarno]

OK, I have a NASCAR question, but don't want to start an entirely new thread for it.
I don't get the connection between Busch series and Nextel Cup series. I always thought of it as "Minor and Major" league. (Nextel being the major league) So how is it the Nextel guys can drive in the Busch series? They seem to pick and choose, and on any given event, there can be up to half of the Busch series chalk full of Nextel drivers?
Does anyone know how this works?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by jsarno

OK, I have a NASCAR question, but don't want to start an entirely new thread for it.
I don't get the connection between Busch series and Nextel Cup series. I always thought of it as "Minor and Major" league. (Nextel being the major league) So how is it the Nextel guys can drive in the Busch series? They seem to pick and choose, and on any given event, there can be up to half of the Busch series chalk full of Nextel drivers?
Does anyone know how this works?

Yeah, the two top series in NASCAR are the NASCAR Nextel Cup (Sprint Cup effective Jan. 1, '08) and the NASCAR Busch Series (new name TBD). The NASCAR Busch Series, which we'll call NBS for the rest of this post, was orginally created some fifty years ago to focus primarily on the short tracks and serve as a "training ground" for up and coming drivers. Over time though, more superspeedways became part of the NBS circuit.

NBS is also used as a training ground for NASCAR itself, to test out new technologies and rules for example.

So, back to the original question, a lot of Cup drivers use the NASCAR Busch Series races to a) test out a track before the Cup race the next day, b) appease a sponsor who might be based in the area for example, c) test out the car (though now the difference between Busch and Cup cars is much more pronounced)

Now it's a catch-22 because on the one hand you want to develop young drivers but on the other hand ticket sales and ratings are consideraby impacted by Cup drivers participating in these races.

It's a constant source of discussion in meetings I am in as to what to do about it.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yeah, the two top series in NASCAR are the NASCAR Nextel Cup (Sprint Cup effective Jan. 1, '08) and the NASCAR Busch Series (new name TBD). The NASCAR Busch Series, which we'll call NBS for the rest of this post, was orginally created some fifty years ago to focus primarily on the short tracks and serve as a "training ground" for up and coming drivers. Over time though, more superspeedways became part of the NBS circuit.

NBS is also used as a training ground for NASCAR itself, to test out new technologies and rules for example.

So, back to the original question, a lot of Cup drivers use the NASCAR Busch Series races to a) test out a track before the Cup race the next day, b) appease a sponsor who might be based in the area for example, c) test out the car (though now the difference between Busch and Cup cars is much more pronounced)

Now it's a catch-22 because on the one hand you want to develop young drivers but on the other hand ticket sales and ratings are consideraby impacted by Cup drivers participating in these races.

It's a constant source of discussion in meetings I am in as to what to do about it.

Wow...that's a great answer! Now if we can only get you away from being a Stewart fan!
See, I did understand it (sort of), it just didn't make sense...sure enough, it really doesn't make a whole lot of sense other than for $$$$

[dallass-blows 2]

denny totally wrecked stewart

[Sammy Baugh Fan]

Originally Posted by dallass-blows 2

denny totally wrecked stewart

JFK killed Honest Abe and Godzilla sank the Titanic too.

[Riggo44]

Originally Posted by Sammy Baugh Fan

JFK killed Honest Abe and Godzilla sank the Titanic too.

Are there ever two sides of a story for you SBF? Just wondering.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Riggo44

Are there ever two sides of a story for you SBF? Just wondering.

There is no other side to this story. It was Stewart being wreckless plain and simple. If he didn't race for JGR, his head would be on a platter by everyone here.

[Riggo44]

Originally Posted by jsarno

There is no other side to this story. It was Stewart being wreckless plain and simple. If he didn't race for JGR, his head would be on a platter by everyone here.

I disagree. But that's just my opinion.
J Gibbs my not agree with you ethier.
QUOTE, I am sure Denny feels bad it got away from him there. I am not sure what happened, but I think it's a shame because we had two good cars. ... Sometimes guys get upset, which is understandable.”

Like I said before, Tony messed up. But Denny has to take some of the blame as well.

[dallass-blows 2]

Originally Posted by Sammy Baugh Fan

JFK killed Honest Abe and Godzilla sank the Titanic too.

look i dont watch a lot of racing. hardly any actually but i saw the highlights of this race and Denny totally slowed down in front of stewart. not even close to being stewarts fault at all!

YouTube - 2007 Pepsi 400: Hamlin/Stewart Crash

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by dallass-blows 2

look i dont watch a lot of racing. hardly any actually but i saw the highlights of this race and Denny totally slowed down in front of stewart. not even close to being stewarts fault at all!

YouTube - 2007 Pepsi 400: Hamlin/Stewart Crash

You better watch it, SBF will go crazy over that statement... He doesn't like to admit that there are 2 sides to every story...

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by dallass-blows 2

look i dont watch a lot of racing. hardly any actually but i saw the highlights of this race and Denny totally slowed down in front of stewart. not even close to being stewarts fault at all!

YouTube - 2007 Pepsi 400: Hamlin/Stewart Crash

HAHAHA...so you were watching the southpark episodes instead of that little youtube section then? You must have, because it clearly shows Stewart getting closer and closer and closer and closer to hamlin, and instead of slowing down or passing...he rammed him. 110% Stewarts fault...anyone who says otherwise is clearly a Stewart fan...open and shut case here boys.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by jsarno

HAHAHA...so you were watching the southpark episodes instead of that little youtube section then? You must have, because it clearly shows Stewart getting closer and closer and closer and closer to hamlin, and instead of slowing down or passing...he rammed him. 110% Stewarts fault...anyone who says otherwise is clearly a Stewart fan...open and shut case here boys.

Now I'm not saying this is the case here. But as a NASCAR fun you should know that sometimes a bump is a good thing. Just keep that in mind when watching race's in general