2022 Commanders off season thread part 1

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I liked JD but man people are acting like he was shady McCoy in his prime or something..

Very good scat back and pass catcher but AG can do all that and Patterson showed he can play too. Curtis Samuel was even used as a RB.

You are Lloyd Christmas. Anyone we lose, no big deal. Anyone we get, huge upgrade.

Not a bad thing. Keep pumping that sunshine.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

You are Lloyd Christmas. Anyone we lose, no big deal. Anyone we get, huge upgrade.

Not a bad thing. Keep pumping that sunshine.

I think skinsfaninok's reasoning may seem overly optimistic to the (understandably) pessimistic fan. But if you view these moves from a non-fan lens, they seem normal and understandable.

If you want to see crazy FA moves (or non-moves) see the Jaguars giving Christian Kirk crazy money.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think skinsfaninok's reasoning may seem overly optimistic to the (understandably) pessimistic fan. But if you view these moves from a non-fan lens, they seem normal and understandable.

If you want to see crazy FA moves (or non-moves) see the Jaguars giving Christian Kirk crazy money.

Good point. I'm actually at a wash right now. It's more fun to jump in immediately on signing people. But I'm OK with waiting. Basically in a circling pattern for at least a week or so, to see where we land.

I'm gonna miss McKissic though. He not only was great receiving out of the backfield, that man dedicated himself to blocking very well. Hopefully the upgrade at QB will downgrade how much we miss him.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

You are Lloyd Christmas. Anyone we lose, no big deal. Anyone we get, huge upgrade.

Not a bad thing. Keep pumping that sunshine.

When we lost Trent I was PISSED and the same for Cousins. Those are 2 of the most important positions in sports..

A RB2 is not.

It’s not about always being optimistic, we suck ass and have for years. I realize that lol.


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[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

When we lost Trent I was PISSED and the same for Cousins. Those are 2 of the most important positions in sports..

A RB2 is not.

It’s not about always being optimistic, we suck ass and have for years. I realize that lol.

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I feel you on Trent. He is still 1 of my top 5 favorite players of all times.

Fuck Kurk though. And fuck Scherff too. I don't buy either of their bullshit stories.

And we need optimism around here. Glad you're still capable of providing some of it.

[skinsfan69]

You have to resign JD. You just gave McCain 11 mill but didn't resign JD who left for 7?? Not a fan of letting him walk. He was probably insulted that they didn't offer him anything and said FU I'll go play for a winner. He is a better back than Patterson. Samuel can not be counted on it this point. Whatever he gives you is gravy but it probably won't be much.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I feel you on Trent. He is still 1 of my top 5 favorite players of all times.

Fuck Kurk though. And fuck Scherff too. I don't buy either of their bullshit stories.

And we need optimism around here. Glad you're still capable of providing some of it.

I try to stay positive with this shit team LOL

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

You are Lloyd Christmas. Anyone we lose, no big deal. Anyone we get, huge upgrade.

Not a bad thing. Keep pumping that sunshine.

😂😂 Lloyd Christmas. That gave me a good lol this morning.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

😂😂 Lloyd Christmas. That gave me a good lol this morning.

One of the best movies ever lolol

[EdmundDorf]

The team has a bad reputation to overcome, that is evident to everyone. I don't think it is helpful to let free agents leave who feel slighted (rightly so in my mind)because we didn't even bother to make an opening offer to them,which would lead to them further criticising the organisation to other players around the league. I don't mind having passed on JDM if they thought he wasn't worth the money, but the report is that they rather arrogantly expected to be given the opportunity to match offers that our FA received, and I see from reporting that was for multiple players. I think the timing of the Bobby McCain signing is not coincidental, as soon as they lost out on JDM, they may have over compensated in the offer they gave him to make sure he accepted.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by EdmundDorf

The team has a bad reputation to overcome, that is evident to everyone. I don't think it is helpful to let free agents leave who feel slighted (rightly so in my mind)because we didn't even bother to make an opening offer to them,which would lead to them further criticising the organisation to other players around the league. I don't mind having passed on JDM if they thought he wasn't worth the money, but the report is that they rather arrogantly expected to be given the opportunity to match offers that our FA received, and I see from reporting that was for multiple players. I think the timing of the Bobby McCain signing is not coincidental, as soon as they lost out on JDM, they may have over compensated in the offer they gave him to make sure he accepted.

You think they overpaid McCain because their pass catching back who had about 600 total yards last year decided to play elsewhere? That's a bit of a leap...

I would have liked to keep both of them, but JDM is currently the 18th highest paid RB. His production was nice, but not worth that compensation. If I were him, I would have just taken that and ran too. No way Washington was going to pay him like that. There will most definitely be other options to replace that production, including a tweak to the offensive scheme.

McCain on the other hand is getting paid like the 26th safety / 30th Cornerback. That seems about right to me.

[EdmundDorf]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I would have liked to keep both of them, but JDM is currently the 18th highest paid RB. His production was nice, but not worth that compensation. If I were him, I would have just taken that and ran too. No way Washington was going to pay him like that. There will most definitely be other options to replace that production, including a tweak to the offensive scheme.
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I think you may have missed my point, which was probably my fault as I seem to be bordering on ranting in some of posts recently. If they didn't think he was worth it, thats fine. My point was more about the reputation the FO has and the need to improve it. They could have just said "Thanks for you effort JDM, but we cant afford what you are going to command. We wish you the best" but they didn't. They expected him or his agent to come back and give them the choice of whether to match the offer. Their apparently high handed approach risked pissing off players and agents which, with the teams current reputation, they cannot afford.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by EdmundDorf

I think you may have missed my point, which was probably my fault as seem to be bordering on ranting in some of posts recently. If they didn't think he was worth it, thats fine. My point was more about the reputation the FO has and the need to imorove it. They could have just said "Thanks for you effort JDM, but we cant afford what you going to command. We wish you the best" but they didn't. They expected him or his agent to come back and give them the choice of whether to match the offer. They risked pissng off players and agents which, with the teams current reputation, they cannot afford.

Meh that is a stretch, you really don't know how they left it with JD or how it was fully handle you are going off media post. the NFL is a business you can do business with out sending a Thank You or I am Sorry card every time.

Plus we are not a Auto Parts story these agents and players only have 32 choices that they can shop their services, agents get it you win some and lose some. JD isn't on the street has more money and is playing for a SB contender, I doubt they are cursing the Commanders for not saying we are sorry.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by EdmundDorf

I think you may have missed my point, which was probably my fault as I seem to be bordering on ranting in some of posts recently. If they didn't think he was worth it, thats fine. My point was more about the reputation the FO has and the need to improve it. They could have just said "Thanks for you effort JDM, but we cant afford what you are going to command. We wish you the best" but they didn't. They expected him or his agent to come back and give them the choice of whether to match the offer. Their apparently high handed approach risked pissing off players and agents which, with the teams current reputation, they cannot afford.

That's your version of what happened.

My version: Buffalo offered JDM twice what he is worth and they knew no one else was going to offer that. Done Deal.

I doubt there is a bunch of players and agents out there, talking about how "high handed" the Washington organization is, and vowing to never work with them again due to the way they handled the Mckissic situation.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

That's your version of what happened.

My version: Buffalo offered JDM twice what he is worth and they knew no one else was going to offer that. Done Deal.

I doubt there is a bunch of players and agents out there, talking about how "high handed" the Washington organization is, and vowing to never work with them again due to the way they handled the Mckissic situation.

Yeah, often times the most straight forward answer makes the most sense. I think JD got the money and the team he was looking for, and if the money was going to be similar here, he'd rather go play for a contender. I don't blame him.