Redskins free agent signings 2018

GridIron26 · 03-22-2018, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

He improved from Sucks to Below Average. We can do much better. I'd rather spend on some other player. Sacks is what teams pay for at his position. But I did hear that he's good to his mother. How much is that worth against the salary cap?

Below average? I am not claiming that Smith is elite player although, I believe he is definitely better than average player and still can get even better. We should try to keep him.. I encourage you to analyze deeper instead of determining a player's worth based on your opinion.

Let's go with your avenue - we let Smith go, who will replace him? Galette? Anderson?

Meks · 03-22-2018, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GridIron26

Below average? I am not claiming that Smith is elite player although, I believe he is definitely better than average player and still can get even better. We should try to keep him.. I encourage you to analyze deeper instead of determining a player's worth based on your opinion.

Let's go with your avenue - we let Smith go, who will replace him? Galette? Anderson?

i agree - he may NOT be an elite pass rusher, but he's solid. He has a tendancy to make plays as well, he picks the ball off a bit, he's always sniffing around the ball/tackle/play.... he's by no means a slouch and he does get pressure on the qb... yes he may vanish sometimes, but who the f doesnt get tired? Or have the flow of the play going away from them alot? I remember being more surprised, than let down with his play so far. He's got plenty of room to improve so we should let him.

CRedskinsRule · 03-21-2018, 09:24 AM

Back on Hankins, I still have not seen that he is visiting other teams. Has anyone else seen where he has gone?

CRedskinsRule · 03-21-2018, 10:37 AM

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Back on Hankins, I still have not seen that he is visiting other teams. Has anyone else seen where he has gone?

apparently he's visiting Detroit:

https://twitter.com/FieldYates/statu...58010653609984

MTK · 03-21-2018, 10:27 AM

Need to Know: It's science--Preston Smith is one of the NFL's top pass rushers | NBC Sports Washington

CRedskinsRule · 03-21-2018, 10:32 AM

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Need to Know: It's science--Preston Smith is one of the NFL's top pass rushers | NBC Sports Washington

OR NKorea hacked the NFL GPS system to make PSmith better!?!?! It's POSSIBLE

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The data does not come from someone with a pen and notepad watching the All-22 from NFL Game Pass. Next Gen Stats are generated from the precise GPS chips that are located in each player’s pads. If the pass rusher is within a certain distance of the quarterback at the time the pass is released, he is credited with a pressure.

FrenchSkin · 03-21-2018, 11:25 AM

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Need to Know: It's science--Preston Smith is one of the NFL's top pass rushers | NBC Sports Washington

http://cdn.stationcaster.com/station...1521642484.mp3

From 30.15, Cooley and Kevin comment this stat.
Chris went through some of his breakdowns.
He identified several ways to make plays that will be recorded as pressures by Next Gen Stats (they consider it a pressure if the player is close to the QB when the pass is thrown)... but are uneffective-lazy-useless plays.

Cooley also made a really good point: if Smith really is a top pass rusher, out of the many passing plays he had, out of all these statistical pressures, how come he didn't get to the QB more?

Don't get me wrong, I like Smith, I hope he stays here, he improved last year, having a good DL will help him, but he's not a top 10 pass rusher.

KI Skins Fan · 03-21-2018, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

http://cdn.stationcaster.com/station...1521642484.mp3

From 30.15, Cooley and Kevin comment this stat.
Chris went through some of his breakdowns.
He identified several ways to make plays that will be recorded as pressures by Next Gen Stats (they consider it a pressure if the player is close to the QB when the pass is thrown)... but are uneffective-lazy-useless plays.

Cooley also made a really good point: if Smith really is a top pass rusher, out of the many passing plays he had, out of all these statistical pressures, how come he didn't get to the QB more?

Don't get me wrong, I like Smith, I hope he stays here, he improved last year, having a good DL will help him, but he's not a top 10 pass rusher.

Sounds like Cooley needs glasses, too.

KI Skins Fan · 03-21-2018, 10:32 AM

Pressures means you didn't get there for the sack. Sacks are huge plays that put the other team in negative yardage situations. Sometimes sacks cause fumbles and turnovers.

MTK · 03-21-2018, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Pressures means you didn't get there for the sack. Sacks are huge plays that put the other team in negative yardage situations. Sometimes sacks cause fumbles and turnovers.

Pressures are valuable too as far as disrupting the pocket, forcing a bad decision, etc. And he’s got 20.5 sacks in his first 3 years. He’s a good young player who’s only getting better.

KI Skins Fan · 03-21-2018, 10:45 AM

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Pressures are valuable too as far as disrupting the pocket, forcing a bad decision, etc. And he’s got 20.5 sacks in his first 3 years. He’s a good young player who’s only getting better.

I choose to believe my eyes over a computer chip. Smith has had some of the cheapest sacks I've ever seen where he's stonewalled at the LOS, the QB runs, and Smith tackles him one yard behind the LOS. Half of Smith's sacks come from another player chasing the QB into him. Pressures are like having sex without getting a ...

sevier2 · 03-21-2018, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I choose to believe my eyes over a computer chip. Smith has had some of the cheapest sacks I've ever seen where he's stonewalled at the LOS, the QB runs, and Smith tackles him one yard behind the LOS. Half of Smith's sacks come from another player chasing the QB into him. Pressures are like having sex without getting a ...

Sounds like you need glasses then...

KI Skins Fan · 03-21-2018, 11:15 AM

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Sounds like you need glasses then...

Shot glasses, maybe. I expected to be in the minority on the topic of Smith. That's OK. We haven't had a dominant pass rusher in so long that most of you have forgotten what one looks like.

CRedskinsRule · 03-21-2018, 10:59 AM

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Pressures means you didn't get there for the sack. Sacks are huge plays that put the other team in negative yardage situations. Sometimes sacks cause fumbles and turnovers.

Well yes, but sometimes it means you forced him into another defensive players arms, Kerrigan had 13 sacks, or forced him to step up and make a bad pass. Hard to be dismissive of a guy who is consistently getting into the qb's pressure zone. Some QBs might not be affected - Brady for example, but others like Eli definitely are.

Sacks are one measure, Pressures have their use too.

Chico23231 · 03-21-2018, 10:44 AM

certainly wasn't knocking P Smith in my post...he's a good young player. I don't think he's been consistent throughout the season and struggles vs the run. He's getting better year by year and hopefully has that breakout season...I think we all here want that. I wouldn't mind seeing him getting extending...it doesn't affect the Hankins pursuit and shouldn't.

03-21-2018, 09:24 AM	#3
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 58 Posts: 21,703	Re: Redskins free agent signings 2018 Back on Hankins, I still have not seen that he is visiting other teams. Has anyone else seen where he has gone?

03-21-2018, 10:27 AM	#5
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03-21-2018, 10:32 AM	#9
KI Skins Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Jacksonville, Forida Posts: 6,412	Re: Redskins free agent signings 2018 Pressures means you didn't get there for the sack. Sacks are huge plays that put the other team in negative yardage situations. Sometimes sacks cause fumbles and turnovers.

03-21-2018, 10:44 AM	#15
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,051	Re: Redskins free agent signings 2018 certainly wasn't knocking P Smith in my post...he's a good young player. I don't think he's been consistent throughout the season and struggles vs the run. He's getting better year by year and hopefully has that breakout season...I think we all here want that. I wouldn't mind seeing him getting extending...it doesn't affect the Hankins pursuit and shouldn't.

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