Dustin Hopkins Sucks Post Game Thread

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Wright wasn't supposed to be there. He breaks to the right when he sees Haskins scramble then does a great pass defense on his own team's throw. Wright basically screwed up the scramble drill. He should have broken towards Haskins to give him a 3rd option instead he made the field congested for Haskins throw.

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Fair enough. He still is the most open guy when Dwayne makes the throw though, and I don't see how he doesn't see him since he's in front of Sims.

My main point was just throw the check down to McKissick in that situation.

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[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Wright wasn't supposed to be there. He breaks to the right when he sees Haskins scramble then does a great pass defense on his own team's throw. Wright basically screwed up the scramble drill. He should have broken towards Haskins to give him a 3rd option instead he made the field congested for Haskins throw.

Edit: looking at it if Wright had moved to around the 15 he would have created a wide open target for Haskins.

Yes, if Wright had come more towards his QB as well as to the side his QB was scrambling to, the result would probably be a catch (assuming a good throw and catch). Looking at it a few times. In the scramble, Wright is looking back to the Qb and I think asking him to also look behind him and be aware of Sims and spacing may be asking too much.

Haskins had the underneath wide open but good for him to not take that (in this situation) since he had good pass pro with 4 wideouts running deep routes to try and take a chance.

Route running or play calling gets me though. Bunching and a lack of space has been a problem, especially in the first half of the season. I heard JP and others talk about this. Is it Turner's play calling or players running lazy routes?

Here, 2 of the 3 guys bunched wide to the right, the 2 inside WRs of the 3 bunch run practically right next to each other for 15 yards down field then break off at their stems.
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How do we post these gif plays? Mark Bullock has a lot of these in his twitter feed and it makes talking plays a lot easier.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Wright wasn't supposed to be there. He breaks to the right when he sees Haskins scramble then does a great pass defense on his own team's throw. Wright basically screwed up the scramble drill. He should have broken towards Haskins to give him a 3rd option instead he made the field congested for Haskins throw.

Edit: looking at it if Wright had moved to around the 15 he would have created a wide open target for Haskins.

Exactly. That is the point I was trying to make. Can't put that one all on Haskins, that actually had the potential to be a very nice play had Wright not been in the way. All this talk about him throwing into triple coverage on that play is BS.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Dwayne needs to have some common sense. Watching some replays those ints were just bad. Turner needs to speed up the game for him and use the running game more. I didn't get to see the game but I was hoping the D would have a multi sack game with RW back there since he takes so many sacks. I am assuming game plan?

[skinsfaninok]

Hopkins sucks but he didn’t lose this game. QB play did in the 1st half. You can’t spot Russ and the Hawks a 20-3 lead. The difference in the game was they had the better QB/RB play when it mattered most

[FrenchSkin]

I'll still take a healthy AS over Haskins to finish the year off... but honestly that 4th quarter by Dwayne got me thinking his time here may not be over yet. The kid has an arm, has potential and is improving his mobility. He also made some nice throws under pressure.

As expected we missed Holcomb and KPL against the run, and I was quite disappointed with our DL early on. They showed up late and it would've been enough minus the missed extra point... and Moses' injury. The 3rd and 15 game finishing sack doesn't happen if he's healthy.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

I'll still take a healthy AS over Haskins to finish the year off... but honestly that 4th quarter by Dwayne got me thinking his time here may not be over yet. The kid has an arm, has potential and is improving his mobility. He also made some nice throws under pressure.

As expected we missed Holcomb and KPL against the run, and I was quite disappointed with our DL early on. They showed up late and it would've been enough minus the missed extra point... and Moses' injury. The 3rd and 15 game finishing sack doesn't happen if he's healthy.

I agree.

The problem with Haskins is everything besides his arm. He can make any throw he wants, but his mechanics need to be better, his decision making absolutely has to be better, he needs to mimic how Alex Smith approaches the game when it's not being played.

Russell Wilson had an interview after the game and I think it would do Haskins well to pay attention. Paraphrasing here, but Wilson said winning is the culmination of all the work you put in off the field, it's how you prepare.

Yes, luck plays a part too, and it probably didn't help that we were missing Holcomb in the run game, and we know Haskins didn't get gashed in run d or not even sack a guy who's been sacked 42 times this year.

But it's looking more like Ron is going to approach next offseason without giving up on Haskins, especially if our options to upgrade are limited, so Haskins really just needs to keep his head down and keep working. He does that and there's no telling what he can do.

It was also encouraging how Dwayne responded in the second half, and he said after the game it was because he played angry. My thing is, if that's what it takes to be an effective qb, you need to play angry from the start. Whatever motivates you, the perceived lack of respect from your competitors, even your coaches. But your mentality has to be consistent from start to finish. Don't wait until we go down by 3 scores to get mad.

[Chief X_Phackter]

I'm not on any train, but the offense looked better yesterday than it has in the last four wins.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I'm not on any train, but the offense looked better yesterday than it has in the last four wins.

It took almost three quarters to look that way and Seattle had a putrid pass D. Putrid. I wish I could get excited about a potential cure to our quarterback issues but I cannot. And if Dwayne starts next week it will not take long to cement my doubt.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by punch it in

It took almost three quarters to look that way and Seattle had a putrid pass D. Putrid. I wish I could get excited about a potential cure to our quarterback issues but I cannot. And if Dwayne starts next week it will not take long to cement my doubt.

You must have forgotten all the short fields Alex Smith has benefited from the last four games. Haskins wasn't the beneficiary of that. He actually drove the offense down the field...

It's easy to get better in pass D when you don't have to worry about a running game.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by punch it in

It took almost three quarters to look that way and Seattle had a putrid pass D. Putrid. I wish I could get excited about a potential cure to our quarterback issues but I cannot. And if Dwayne starts next week it will not take long to cement my doubt.

Watching the yahoo highlight reel it looked like the offense got moving in the second quarter but the redzone int ended the first solid drive.

I wonder if Haskins shouldn't start these last two games. Think of the confidence boost for the whole organization if he wins both and if he loses both then you know you have to move on. Couldn't ask for a better test than 2 winnable games with the division title on the line to see what your team has.

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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Watching the yahoo highlight reel it looked like the offense got moving in the second quarter but the redzone int ended the first solid drive.

I wonder if Haskins shouldn't start these last two games. Think of the confidence boost for the whole organization if he wins both and if he loses both then you know you have to move on. Couldn't ask for a better test than 2 winnable games with the division title on the line to see what your team has.

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That is the conundrum. There is a playoff birth well within our reach. This isn’t a time to see what we have. We know what we have in AS. A quarterback who finds ways to win not lose. The only thing Haskins has that Smith doesn’t is a strong arm but if you cannot read the field or throw off your feet correctly than what good is a strong arm. If the season were over than start DH. It is not so you have to go with the guy who gives you the best chance to win. It is Alex.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by punch it in

That is the conundrum. There is a playoff birth well within our reach. This isn’t a time to see what we have. We know what we have in AS. A quarterback who finds ways to win not lose. The only thing Haskins has that Smith doesn’t is a strong arm but if you cannot read the field or throw off your feet correctly than what good is a strong arm. If the season were over than start DH. It is not so you have to go with the guy who gives you the best chance to win. It is Alex.

Given the teams we play, and our defensive strength, i would say this is exactly the time to figure out what we need. We are a near lock for the playoffs unless you believe NYG can beat the Ravens. And if DH can't get us across the line then we end up with a better draft position by about 7 spots to pick his replacement. If he does get us across the line you can use rounds 1 and 2 to strengthen the team and pick up a qb with a 3rd rd pick.

Honestly, I don't think the team could be in a much better spot to really solidify the understanding of team needs to make this team a perrenial contender.

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[Chief X_Phackter]

Yeah I feel like there is still this belief out there that the legion of boom and the awesome Seattle defense is still around because of their record. Their defense is a train wreck. A fiery train wreck.

Um, their defense has allowed 16 points a game over the last six games. They are not the same defense that they were in the beginning of the season.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Um, their defense has allowed 16 points a game over the last six games. They are not the same defense that they were in the beginning of the season.

I repeat Dwayne, Jets, Eagles with Wentz, Giants with McCoy....,