Postgame Falcons

SFREDSKIN · 11-04-2018, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Looks like my calls for interior oline help this past offseason will come back to haunt us. Told this garbage front office to get a left guard and quality depth at interior oline.

Now the apologists will point to the oline as the problem with the offense, when the passing offense has been certified garbage since the Arizona game.

My concern is Scherff, he’s scheduled for an MRI, they didn’t expect Kouandjio to get hurt.

skinsfan69 · 11-04-2018, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

My concern is Scherff, he’s scheduled for an MRI, they didn’t expect Kouandjio to get hurt.

Those dummies were counting on someone they cut to be their starting LG. That is just as dumb as dumb gets.

punch it in · 11-04-2018, 08:09 PM

5-3, 3-5 it doesn’t really matter. We are not the Ravens with Trent Dilfer. We do not have a coach and our defense is not nearly good enough to carry this dreadful offense.
We might win a few more games. Who knows? What I do know is that Gruden and Smith are not nearly good enough even if we had a legit D. And Our D is just smoke and mirrors. When push comes to shove they falter.

skinsfaninok · 11-04-2018, 08:34 PM

It's insane that this team can't come back from 7-0, that is so sad.

BaltimoreSkins · 11-04-2018, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

It's insane that this team can't come back from 7-0, that is so sad.

I'm just glad AS finally had a 300 yard passing game to pad his stats.

sandtrapjack · 11-05-2018, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I'm just glad AS finally had a 300 yard passing game to pad his stats.

IDK if you really should be that glad. AS had to throw 46 times yesterday playing catch-up. Don't know how much of a stats guy you are, but I looked it up.

In the 3 losses this season, Smith averaged 43 attempts for 291 yards per game. In the 5 wins, he averaged only 29 attempts and 199 ypg.

On the other hand, in the 5 wins, Peterson averaged 22 rushes for 112 ypg. In the 3 losses, AD averaged 8 carries for 14 yards.

Seems to me that if you keep AS under 33 attempts, and get AD 20 touches, you have a pretty good formula.

BaltimoreSkins · 11-05-2018, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

IDK if you really should be that glad. AS had to throw 46 times yesterday playing catch-up. Don't know how much of a stats guy you are, but I looked it up.

In the 3 losses this season, Smith averaged 43 attempts for 291 yards per game. In the 5 wins, he averaged only 29 attempts and 199 ypg.

On the other hand, in the 5 wins, Peterson averaged 22 rushes for 112 ypg. In the 3 losses, AD averaged 8 carries for 14 yards.

Seems to me that if you keep AS under 33 attempts, and get AD 20 touches, you have a pretty good formula.

It was sarcasm.

Chico23231 · 11-05-2018, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

It was sarcasm.

Its funny a Dallas fan couldn't pick up on it...they have that Dak passing bench mark stat hyperbole going on with their fanbase right now.

Alex wasn't terrible yesterday...but he wasn't great either. Just basic.

Schneed10 · 11-05-2018, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

IDK if you really should be that glad. AS had to throw 46 times yesterday playing catch-up. Don't know how much of a stats guy you are, but I looked it up.

In the 3 losses this season, Smith averaged 43 attempts for 291 yards per game. In the 5 wins, he averaged only 29 attempts and 199 ypg.

On the other hand, in the 5 wins, Peterson averaged 22 rushes for 112 ypg. In the 3 losses, AD averaged 8 carries for 14 yards.

Seems to me that if you keep AS under 33 attempts, and get AD 20 touches, you have a pretty good formula.

Formula only works if you can open holes. Not liking our chances of doing that for the next few weeks at least.

skinsfaninok · 11-04-2018, 09:21 PM

right now we have scored just 160 points in 8 games. Which is right at 20 ppg, in todays NFL that wont get the job done. We have also given up more than we have scored, to be 5-3 is a miracle , we are the 2017 Buffalo Bills, just had the ball bounce their way enough to get 9 wins.

REDSKINS4ever · 11-05-2018, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

right now we have scored just 160 points in 8 games. Which is right at 20 ppg, in todays NFL that wont get the job done. We have also given up more than we have scored, to be 5-3 is a miracle , we are the 2017 Buffalo Bills, just had the ball bounce their way enough to get 9 wins.

9 victories? After last week's game against the NYG there were reports that the remaining opponents for the Redskins had a .391 winning percentage....which on average would be all winnable games....they ought to win between 10-12 games this year.

PorkSkins · 11-04-2018, 11:20 PM

I haven't read any posts (other than the two above mine) in this thread, but there were several things that went wrong today.

First of all, we simply looked to have been outschemed/outcoached by the Falcons. I'm not sold on Gruden nor Manusky, and games like today just continues to shift the needle to the wrong side.

Atlanta only threw two passes that exceeded more than 20 yards in the air. One was the INT by Dunbar and the other was, in my opinion, an uncatchable ball to Julio Jones where Norman panicked and got a pass interference. They made a living on us with screens, and short and intermediate routes. I knew right after their second possession that was gonna be their course throughout the game.

IMO, it looked like Manusky didn't adjust. The Falcons' offense dictated the game and Manusky didn't have a clue. I thought Manusky should've tightened up the coverage, whether it be in man or zone. Our blitzes, whenever we decide to send extra pressure, also seem to lack imagination. He played scared, if you ask me.

We also need better play from our OLBs. We gotta get more out of Kerrigan and Smith. Our ILBs were exposed as well in the passing game. The ILBs and safeties also did a poor job when the Falcons ran the ball today. They were attacking us on the edge and on draw plays. Neither position filled well today in the run game.

Alex Smith actually played decently today. He was besieged with a few drops as well. Important drops by the way. The one by Vernon Davis resulted in an INT (who was interferred with on the play, but I'll touch on that a bit later). Smith just isn't a QB who'll elevate the play of his team. I don't have anything against Smith, but our front office fouled things up with Cousins when they didn't sign him to a long-term deal after the '15 or '16 seasons.

I'll end this post by saying today's officiating stunk like skunks on a farm. It started on our second play of the game. Questionable holding call on Lavao, and it went downhill from there with the penalties and injuries. The holding call before the half, which took away our deep catch by Doctson and out of FG range, was also questionable.

The Falcons were running pick plays, and they finally got called for two late in the game, but the damage was basically done by that point. The TD pass to Ridley, right before halftime, was a pick play. Sanu engaged with, if I'm correct, Danny Johnson with the ball in the air. I noticed it live, and blurted out "That's a pick play," and awaited for the "flag" icon to light up on the TV. But to no avail. A handful of other calls or non-calls that typically benefited the Falcons didn't help matters, as we were already shooting ourselves in the foot per the gameplan (particularly, defensively) and injuries to our O-line piling up.

We've been handled in all of our losses, and two of those losses were rather in ugly fashion. We have to find a better way to be competitve in our losses. Sell out a bit more on defense if need be. Of course, find a way to be more imaginative, but we can't allow teams to waltz up and down the field on us. Eight weeks in it doesn't seem like we can keep up in that type of scenario. So, we need to find a way to be more aggressive and take our chances. Particularly, when there's a certain pattern of the game taking place.

The one positive is we've shown we can bounce back after laying a dud. Hopefully, we can do the same versus another solid offensive team in the Bucs next week.

sdskinsfan2001 · 11-05-2018, 01:20 AM

Open the field and spread the ball around and the defense melts like a grilled cheese sandwich. Kerrigan seemed solid and Ioannidis had the sack, but other than that the front 7 did jack squat. Payne, Allen, and Preston did absolutely nothing. And our ILBs got exposed in coverage.

Gruden and Manusky are absolutely pitiful at in game adjustments. If the original plan doesn't work we have no freaking chance.

irish · 11-05-2018, 07:15 AM

IMO the 2 biggest problems are:

1. This team does not score enough points. Less that 21 makes it very difficult to win.

2. Because of 1 the pressure is all on the D but from what I saw yesterday this D is great against teams like NYG but when faced with an opponent that can really move the ball this D isn't as good as their numbers indicate.

Tampa is another team with a bad record but can move the ball and score points. This will be a very tough game for the Skins to win.

mooby · 11-05-2018, 08:06 AM

I think we have a good idea of what kind of team we have at this point in the year. If we play good D and get the run game going, we can win games.

Against air-raid attack offenses with stout defenses like Atlanta we don't stand a chance. Defense looks terrible against these aggressive teams on offense. And asking Alex Smith to do anything more than play a slow, ball-control offense predicated on a working running game is a bad idea.

I watch teams like the Rams, Saints, Pats, even the Packers and I wonder how they get so lucky having so many reliable options on the field at the same time.

11-04-2018, 08:09 PM	#3
punch it in From a Land Down Under Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: toms river, nj Age: 54 Posts: 24,147	Re: Postgame Falcons 5-3, 3-5 it doesn’t really matter. We are not the Ravens with Trent Dilfer. We do not have a coach and our defense is not nearly good enough to carry this dreadful offense. We might win a few more games. Who knows? What I do know is that Gruden and Smith are not nearly good enough even if we had a legit D. And Our D is just smoke and mirrors. When push comes to shove they falter.

11-04-2018, 08:34 PM	#4
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,192	Re: Postgame Falcons It's insane that this team can't come back from 7-0, that is so sad. __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

11-04-2018, 09:21 PM	#10
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,192	Re: Postgame Falcons right now we have scored just 160 points in 8 games. Which is right at 20 ppg, in todays NFL that wont get the job done. We have also given up more than we have scored, to be 5-3 is a miracle , we are the 2017 Buffalo Bills, just had the ball bounce their way enough to get 9 wins. __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

11-04-2018, 11:20 PM	#12
PorkSkins Playmaker Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: South Carolina Posts: 4,441	Re: Postgame Falcons I haven't read any posts (other than the two above mine) in this thread, but there were several things that went wrong today. First of all, we simply looked to have been outschemed/outcoached by the Falcons. I'm not sold on Gruden nor Manusky, and games like today just continues to shift the needle to the wrong side. Atlanta only threw two passes that exceeded more than 20 yards in the air. One was the INT by Dunbar and the other was, in my opinion, an uncatchable ball to Julio Jones where Norman panicked and got a pass interference. They made a living on us with screens, and short and intermediate routes. I knew right after their second possession that was gonna be their course throughout the game. IMO, it looked like Manusky didn't adjust. The Falcons' offense dictated the game and Manusky didn't have a clue. I thought Manusky should've tightened up the coverage, whether it be in man or zone. Our blitzes, whenever we decide to send extra pressure, also seem to lack imagination. He played scared, if you ask me. We also need better play from our OLBs. We gotta get more out of Kerrigan and Smith. Our ILBs were exposed as well in the passing game. The ILBs and safeties also did a poor job when the Falcons ran the ball today. They were attacking us on the edge and on draw plays. Neither position filled well today in the run game. Alex Smith actually played decently today. He was besieged with a few drops as well. Important drops by the way. The one by Vernon Davis resulted in an INT (who was interferred with on the play, but I'll touch on that a bit later). Smith just isn't a QB who'll elevate the play of his team. I don't have anything against Smith, but our front office fouled things up with Cousins when they didn't sign him to a long-term deal after the '15 or '16 seasons. I'll end this post by saying today's officiating stunk like skunks on a farm. It started on our second play of the game. Questionable holding call on Lavao, and it went downhill from there with the penalties and injuries. The holding call before the half, which took away our deep catch by Doctson and out of FG range, was also questionable. The Falcons were running pick plays, and they finally got called for two late in the game, but the damage was basically done by that point. The TD pass to Ridley, right before halftime, was a pick play. Sanu engaged with, if I'm correct, Danny Johnson with the ball in the air. I noticed it live, and blurted out "That's a pick play," and awaited for the "flag" icon to light up on the TV. But to no avail. A handful of other calls or non-calls that typically benefited the Falcons didn't help matters, as we were already shooting ourselves in the foot per the gameplan (particularly, defensively) and injuries to our O-line piling up. We've been handled in all of our losses, and two of those losses were rather in ugly fashion. We have to find a better way to be competitve in our losses. Sell out a bit more on defense if need be. Of course, find a way to be more imaginative, but we can't allow teams to waltz up and down the field on us. Eight weeks in it doesn't seem like we can keep up in that type of scenario. So, we need to find a way to be more aggressive and take our chances. Particularly, when there's a certain pattern of the game taking place. The one positive is we've shown we can bounce back after laying a dud. Hopefully, we can do the same versus another solid offensive team in the Bucs next week.

11-05-2018, 01:20 AM	#13
sdskinsfan2001 Living Legend Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hanahan, South Carolina Age: 42 Posts: 20,615	Re: Postgame Falcons Open the field and spread the ball around and the defense melts like a grilled cheese sandwich. Kerrigan seemed solid and Ioannidis had the sack, but other than that the front 7 did jack squat. Payne, Allen, and Preston did absolutely nothing. And our ILBs got exposed in coverage. Gruden and Manusky are absolutely pitiful at in game adjustments. If the original plan doesn't work we have no freaking chance. __________________ "You can be my wingman anytime." "Bulls**t. You can be mine."

11-05-2018, 07:15 AM	#14
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: Postgame Falcons IMO the 2 biggest problems are: 1. This team does not score enough points. Less that 21 makes it very difficult to win. 2. Because of 1 the pressure is all on the D but from what I saw yesterday this D is great against teams like NYG but when faced with an opponent that can really move the ball this D isn't as good as their numbers indicate. Tampa is another team with a bad record but can move the ball and score points. This will be a very tough game for the Skins to win.

11-05-2018, 08:06 AM	#15
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,577	Re: Postgame Falcons I think we have a good idea of what kind of team we have at this point in the year. If we play good D and get the run game going, we can win games. Against air-raid attack offenses with stout defenses like Atlanta we don't stand a chance. Defense looks terrible against these aggressive teams on offense. And asking Alex Smith to do anything more than play a slow, ball-control offense predicated on a working running game is a bad idea. I watch teams like the Rams, Saints, Pats, even the Packers and I wonder how they get so lucky having so many reliable options on the field at the same time.

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