Should Oliver Luck pull a power play on the Colts?

mbedner3420 · 12-07-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I dunno, I think that the Luck and Manning clans might be working together to get what they want. It seems that Peyton Manning doesn't want Andrew Luck in Indy any more than Luck wants to play behind Manning. Together, the two players could exert powerful leverage on the Colts.

The Colts could be in a bad spot here, for several reasons. First, the Colts owe Peyton a huge bonus before the start of the 2012 League Year, which means that the Colts cannot trade him prior to paying him that bonus. If they were to trade Peyton after they pay him the bonus, they would take huge cap hits for the next two seasons for a star player who isn't even on their roster. It would be unthinkable for the Colts to cut a healthy Manning and get nothing for him, so the bonus is a big problem for the Colts.

The first question might be "What would Peyton want in order to amend his contract to change the due date of his bonus to a date that would allow the Colts to trade him?" If they can work that out with Manning, the Colts might be able to get away with trading him for a king's ransom.

That would clear the way for them to draft Luck, if Luck wants to play in Indy. But Luck could indeed refuse to report to Indy if he is drafted by them and thereby force their hand (See page 1 of the Eli Manning playbook for details). So, it's not unreasonable to think that the Colts may determine that paying Manning and trading out of the #1 spot is in their best interest.

Not to play conspiracy theorist or anything, but I think you are right that there is some collusion on the part of the Manning and Luck families. This offseason may be more interesting than last summers condensed FA period due to this story alone (and the fact that the Skins have been linked to both players).

skinsfaninok · 12-07-2011, 01:34 PM

Archie is letting the colts know now that Peyton doesn't want Luck in INDY so make your decision soon

saden1 · 12-07-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Archie is letting the colts know now that Peyton doesn't want Luck in INDY so make your decision soon

Archie is speaking for Payton? Given that Indy can't win a single game and is so handicapped at the QB position I doubt the Colts' management gives a fck what Archie and Payton really think. This decision is all about what is best for the Colts.

skinsfaninok · 12-07-2011, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

Archie is speaking for Payton? Given that Indy can't win a single game and is so handicapped at the QB position I doubt the Colts' management gives a fck what Archie and Payton really think. This decision is all about what is best for the Colts.

I Agree but a guy like Peyton Manning has more pull than you think in Indy

JoeRedskin · 12-07-2011, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I Agree but a guy like Peyton Manning has more pull than you think in Indy

Really? I doubt it.

Sure they would like to keep him happy, but, ultimately, he's on his last legs and Polian's gonna do what Polian needs to do. If it's a bitter divorce between an older Hall of Fame Player and franchise moving forward, it won't be the first nor the last (e.g. Marino, Bradshaw, Montana, Unitas, etc. ... In the future, I sincerely doubt Brady goes quietly into the night even after it is clear to everyone else his time is done).

saden1 · 12-07-2011, 01:37 PM

What's with all this crazy talk? Luck would the dumbest QB ever to not play behind a legend on his last leg and an injury away from the morgue. There no better fountain of knowledge to learn from than Manning. No matter what he is the future of any org that picks him and from the looks of it Luck should worry more about Barkley being picked #1 over all.

SmootSmack · 12-07-2011, 01:37 PM

How about...the Saints fail to sign Drew Brees this off-season...and Peyton Manning goes to New Orleans

JoeRedskin · 12-07-2011, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

How about...the Saints fail to sign Drew Brees this off-season...and Peyton Manning goes to New Orleans

And we sign Brees and draft Barkely. Winner!!!

mbedner3420 · 12-07-2011, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

And we sign Brees and draft Barkely. Winner!!!

So you're saying I'd have to look at that mole/scar for the next three years and adopt the use of the word "dat". That's a deal breaker for me.

Let those smelly Creoles keep him...

Lotus · 12-07-2011, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

How about...the Saints fail to sign Drew Brees this off-season...and Peyton Manning goes to New Orleans

Would the Saints really let the actual mayor of New Orleans get away? Brees is just one small notch below Jesus down here.

SmootSmack · 12-07-2011, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Would the Saints really let the actual mayor of New Orleans get away? Brees is just one small notch below Jesus down here.

They're far apart...but both sides want an agreement so I suspect an agreement will be reached.

But maybe, just maybe, they won't be able to keep Brees and their back-up. What's his name?

mbedner3420 · 12-07-2011, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

They're far apart...but both sides want an agreement so I suspect an agreement will be reached.

But maybe, just maybe, they won't be able to keep Brees and their back-up. What's his name?

On a side note (from the D. Brees talk): Smoot, what is your take on the colts situation? Do you see some power plays coming and do you have any sense on where A. Luck will finally land?

SmootSmack · 12-07-2011, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mbedner3420

On a side note (from the D. Brees talk): Smoot, what is your take on the colts situation? Do you see some power plays coming and do you have any sense on where A. Luck will finally land?

I couldn't even begin to guess. I think whoever finishes the worst record, and I think it will be the Colts (barring something unforeseen), will draft and keep Luck.

I don't think even the Colts thought they'd be in this situation

Lotus · 12-07-2011, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

They're far apart...but both sides want an agreement so I suspect an agreement will be reached.

But maybe, just maybe, they won't be able to keep Brees and their back-up. What's his name?

If the Aints let Brees go, the rioting in NOLA will be ugly...the fans' feelings of betrayal will be deep.

skinsfaninok · 12-07-2011, 03:49 PM

^ Yeah it's that Charlie Daniel guy right?

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