If Pryor entered the supplemental draft would you pick him.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

It amazes me to hear people talk about college qb's. It has become so similar and as polarizing as politics. If a Qb does not have certain labels or buzz words like tall, white kid, pocket passer, pro offense experience then to some it is a waste. That is very narrow minded.
Nearly all college Qb's are not ready for the NLF when they first come out, even the ones that meet these labels.

It's nothing narrow minded about it. It's about recognizing what is good in college and works there, doesn't in the NFL. Big arm, height, mobility, intelligence, accuracy, character all play a part in it.


Also, the very guy being investigated for improper use of cars decides to roll up Monday to a team only meeting in this?



I don't need to see a Wonderlic test to know this guy is a idiot. He's pretty much sending a message that yeah I did this shit and got my coach fired but so what!! You want that leading your pro team? Good thing many of you don't run this team.

[Bigreds77]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

It's nothing narrow minded about it. It's about recognizing what is good in college and works there, doesn't in the NFL. Big arm, height, mobility, intelligence, accuracy, character all play a part in it.


Also, the very guy being investigated for improper use of cars decides to roll up Monday to a team only meeting in this?



I don't need to see a Wonderlic test to know this guy is a idiot. He's pretty much sending a message that yeah I did this shit and got my coach fired but so what!! You want that leading your pro team? Good thing many of you don't run this team.

Living in Ohio and being a Die hard Buckeye fan I would say you said it like it is.Two coaches that I have admired are Tressel and Gibbs. Pryor is to stupid to know that he was part of getting a Legend fired.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Bigreds77

Living in Ohio and being a Die hard Buckeye fan I would say you said it like it is.Two coaches that I have admired are Tressel and Gibbs. Pryor is to stupid to know that he was part of getting a Legend fired.

Seems your "legend" has been cheating his whole life. It's not just the dummy Pryor. Tressel could have made stands his whole career and hasn't done it once. What kind of legend is that? He's been turning the blind eye since he was a coordinator.

[skinsfan69]

wouldn't touch this guy. he's simply not an accurate enough passer for the pro game. imo that's something you're born with. to his credit he's gotten better but stlll not good enough. i really wouldn't judge the guy on the off the field stuff. these guys are 18-21 year olds and people forget that. these guys are going to make mistakes.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

i really wouldn't judge the guy on the off the field stuff. these guys are 18-21 year olds and people forget that. these guys are going to make mistakes.

I agree for the most part depending on the exact stuff being done and how many incidents. However, when you get caught, you don't still keep doing it which is exactly what he's done this past week. "Oh, I'm being investigated for improper use of cars given to me by dealerships? Let me just roll up into a meeting in a 350Z with 30 day dealer tags that some dealership loaned to me." That goes beyond the "being 18-21 year old mistake. That signifies something much much more.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I agree for the most part depending on the exact stuff being done and how many incidents. However, when you get caught, you don't still keep doing it which is exactly what he's done this past week. "Oh, I'm being investigated for improper use of cars given to me by dealerships? Let me just roll up into a meeting in a 350Z with 30 day dealer tags that some dealership loaned to me." That goes beyond the "being 18-21 year old mistake. That signifies something much much more.

do you know how he got the car?

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

do you know how he got the car?

The report has been he's used over 8 different cars since his time at Ohio State. It's quite obvious from the investigative report from SI that this dealership is loaning him cars to use. He sure as hell didn't pay for it. (or any of the other 7 cars) If he was selling gear and other stuff, what makes you think he wasn't taking cars from dealerships? Come on man....lol People are in so denial about things.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

The report has been he's used over 8 different cars since his time at Ohio State. It's quite obvious from the investigative report from SI that this dealership is loaning him cars to use. He sure as hell didn't pay for it. (or any of the other 7 cars) If he was selling gear and other stuff, what makes you think he wasn't taking cars from dealerships? Come on man....lol People are in so denial about things.

I can see taking some cash or some small handouts. But if was driving 7 cars from a dealership then it might be time for Pryor to move on. It will all come out.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

wouldn't touch this guy. he's simply not an accurate enough passer for the pro game. imo that's something you're born with. to his credit he's gotten better but stlll not good enough. i really wouldn't judge the guy on the off the field stuff. these guys are 18-21 year olds and people forget that. these guys are going to make mistakes.

Yeah that worked out real well for Vince Young didn't it? I can see it now, Pryor ripping off his burgundy and gold jersey and shoulder pads and throwing them into the stands as he runs off the field crying like a little pre-madonna BIA!!!!

Vinny doesn't run this show anymore boys and girls. We draft through the draft with good, solid picks. Not supplemental namby-pamby showboaters who can finish college because they derailed a powerhouse football program and broke it into shambles. This topic is a done. Time this tread was locked. Anytime now Mods. lol

[Monkeydad]

Not a chance. He's not a Pro QB. He'll likely end up in the UFL.

[Chico23231]

I think in terms of value, look at the recent draft. Wrap your brain around christian ponder middle first round, and the what 4th, 5th QB taken at that point? Think of that talent pool of QBs and how high they went.

Now think if you could land Terrel Pryor with a 4th round value, getting him in a year early to sit and learn. Maybe even a 3rd.

Im much much comfortable using a 4th on TP than say a Ponder, Gabbert, Cam, Locker in the 1st round. Risk. From a value standpoint TP in the 4th or 3rd much better value. I wouldnt be upset with a gamble from that standpoint.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think in terms of value, look at the recent draft. Wrap your brain around christian ponder middle first round, and the what 4th, 5th QB taken at that point? Think of that talent pool of QBs and how high they went.

I think the reason those guys went so high is because of the lack of FA moves due to the lockout. Had Kolb or any other FA QB been available, I doubt you see Locker being taken in top 10 or Ponder in mid first.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think in terms of value, look at the recent draft. Wrap your brain around christian ponder middle first round, and the what 4th, 5th QB taken at that point? Think of that talent pool of QBs and how high they went.

Now think if you could land Terrel Pryor with a 4th round value, getting him in a year early to sit and learn. Maybe even a 3rd.

Im much much comfortable using a 4th on TP than say a Ponder, Gabbert, Cam, Locker in the 1st round. Risk. From a value standpoint TP in the 4th or 3rd much better value. I wouldnt be upset with a gamble from that standpoint.

good point. 4th round would be a good value. If he becomes the starter at some point it's a steal, if not it's not too much to lose. 3rd round might be too high for us to bid, but I think Shanny would gamble a 3rd if he likes his potential. Mike Shanahan is risk taker & like you said, this is so much less risk than drafting a qb in 1st or 2nd round.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think in terms of value, look at the recent draft. Wrap your brain around christian ponder middle first round, and the what 4th, 5th QB taken at that point? Think of that talent pool of QBs and how high they went.

Now think if you could land Terrel Pryor with a 4th round value, getting him in a year early to sit and learn. Maybe even a 3rd.

Im much much comfortable using a 4th on TP than say a Ponder, Gabbert, Cam, Locker in the 1st round. Risk. From a value standpoint TP in the 4th or 3rd much better value. I wouldnt be upset with a gamble from that standpoint.

I think the reason Ponder shot up draft boards was in part cause of his off season. He got a chance to meet with coaches, he played well in the Senior Bowl and had a good combine. Not the case with Pryor. But all it takes is one team to like the guy.

[saden1]

Taking him would be a waste of a draft pick and a roster spot. He can't play at the next level unless you intend to run a gimmick oriented offense.