Skinsfaninok's Available NFL QBs Poll

[SkinzWin]

I know he is not a FA, but I think Kyle Orton should have been included on this list. Broncos could probably wind up trading him easily with Tebow and the possibility to draft a QB in the draft. He would be #1 over all the others in the pole. Besides Orton, Kolb and then VY. We all know we can't trade for Kolb after the McNabb debacle.

[SmootSmack]

Yeah, the list could have gone on to include Troy Smith, Kyle Orton, Bruce Gradkowski,Tarvaris Jackson and more but I chose to keep it limited to just the players that have been attached to the Redskins whether by legit info (Vince Young, Matt Hasselbeck, Marc Bulger-though that was last season really) or general speculation (Alex Smith, Carson Palmer).

And I threw Kevin Kolb in there because he's the biggest QB on the market and to see if people were willing to potentially give up a 1st rounder for Kolb vs. getting one of the other guys at a much cheaper price

[GTripp0012]

I believe in Kevin Kolb as an NFL starter, but I like Palmer more in terms of leading a modern NFL offense. Maybe not more than Kolb in 2014. But today, tomorrow, and for the forseeable football future, he's the best option on the list.

[Shadowbyte]

Wow, I'm the only one who voted for Hasslebeck. I know he's old but he still has at least 3 more productive seasons in him. He plays big in the playoffs, he was robbed of one Superbowl, and he'll come much cheaper than Kevin Kolb. I'm still not completely sold on Kolb yet. The only problem with Matt is he's injury prone. Besides that the kid is money.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Shadowbyte

Wow, I'm the only one who voted for Hasslebeck. I know he's old but he still has at least 3 more productive seasons in him. He plays big in the playoffs, he was robbed of one Superbowl, and he'll come much cheaper than Kevin Kolb. I'm still not completely sold on Kolb yet. The only problem with Matt is he's injury prone. Besides that the kid is money.

Then what happened with the last three seasons he didn't have in him?

[Shadowbyte]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Then what happened with the last three seasons he didn't have in him?

I don't quite understand your question. Can your re-phrase it?

[BuckSkin]

One Hasselbeck in a Redskins uniform is enough to last me a lifetime. Thanks, but no thanks. All kidding aside Matt has had a very good career, but I think that it should be done. He learned a lot from Farve and I hope Farve's last lesson doesn't go unwarranted. Retire before you're a punchline.

[skinsfaninok]

Bulger and HBeck are done

[SBXVII]

I think I would have answered "None of the above" had there been a choice.

The only one I'd put any type of thought into would have been Hasselbech and I really don't want him considering he's had a few injuries these last few years. At an extremely low price and strict contract I might think about Young but I look at him and see an over weight bloated drug abuser (I think of Elvis).

Bulger- no thanks. Don't think he's right for the system.
Hasselbech- old now and injury prone.
Palmer- again old now and injury prone.
Young- over weight, needs rehab, and needs to commit to studying more.
Kolb- sucks. sorry. even the Eagles finally figured that out.
Smith- I guess this is my pick if I must pick one. more accurate then Kolb.

I'd still rather pass on any of them. Why? because if you look at the situation honestly some are not going to work out in this system and the others will probably need a full year under the scheme to actually learn it backwards and forwards. Look what happened to McNabb, supposedly one of the best studyers and definitly better then any on the list and he had dificulties. I'll agree most if it was protection but I'd almost rather keep McNabb or let Grossman play another year while a Rookie is learning the scheme. McNabb has to be better after having a full year under his belt vs. any on the list.

and.... I'm actually not a McNabb fan. I like him personally and liked what skills he had in Philli but I didn't think he would be right here. Maybe we can stick in the Rookie when the team is way ahead of the opponant...... if that ever happens, so he can get experience.

[SBXVII]

On a side note under the news section they have the Skins bringing in Tyrod Taylor? Ummm, why? just for a looksie? I don't see him being any good for our system either and if I recall during their bowl game the announcers even mentioned he's a bit small and probably should look to change to the WR spot. I could see us using him in a Wild Cat situation but I don't foresee the Shanahan's going that route.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

On a side note under the news section they have the Skins bringing in Tyrod Taylor? Ummm, why? just for a looksie? I don't see him being any good for our system either and if I recall during their bowl game the announcers even mentioned he's a bit small and probably should look to change to the WR spot. I could see us using him in a Wild Cat situation but I don't foresee the Shanahan's going that route.

Guys like Taylor and McElroy are options in the 5th round or below...but I seriously doubt they'd be long term starter solutions

[Alvin Walton]

That whole list is depressing.
Kolb may have the most long term upswing but I dont want any more QB's with Iggle stink on them.
I'd go with Vince Emo Butthurt Young and hope he doesnt wig out again.

[SmootSmack]

The way I see it:

Bulger: A shell of his former self, can't do anything without a line. Makes Todd Collins look like Usain Bolt

Hasselbeck: Well, remember I'm assuming neither McNabb or Grossman are here. In that case, Hass is a decent stop gap for a couple of years. But are we looking for yet another stop gap? I'm not, though I can see the argument for say drafting Ponder and sitting him for a year, while a guy versed in the WCO like MH can't take over for a year, I'd prefer that we just go with our guy for the next several years (hopefully) beginning this season.

Kolb: We can't afford him, and I'm not sure he's shown enough for the price anyway

Palmer: He falls somewhere between Hasselbeck and Bulger in my mind.

So take all those guys out and that leaves Alex Smith and Vince Young. Between the two of them, I can see benefits to both. I think Smith needs a change of scenery (and to stay healthy), but he's still young, well respected by teammates and coaches, and has shown (granted in relatively small doses) that he can play at a high level. On the other hand, will a change of scenery even do him any good?

Then you've got Vince Young who is in many ways the exact opposite of Smith. No real problems on the field, but off the field is another question.

I feel like I know more what I'll get from Young on the field, but worry that his psyche (sp?) can't deal with everything off the field (including in the locker room and on the sidelines).

So now that has me leaning toward Smith

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The way I see it:

Then you've got Vince Young who is in many ways the exact opposite of Smith. No real problems on the field, but off the field is another question.

I feel like I know more what I'll get from Young on the field, but worry that his psyche (sp?) can't deal with everything off the field (including in the locker room and on the sidelines).

So now that has me leaning toward Smith

I voted Kolb, not considering the price. Price considered, no way.

I don't think Smith will ultimately be released, he may be traded but not released. I don't trade for him.

Young, no way. Not mentally tough, too much drama, too much unpredictability with this guy.

I'd go into the pre-season (if we have one) with Grossman, Beck, rookie. I don't grab QB before the 3rd or 4th round in this years draft. Work on the DL, OLB & OL this off-season and trade back/stockpile picks if possible. Work on QB next year.

The upcoming season will be a struggle and we're unlikely to make the playoffs, begin the true rebuilding now.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

I voted Kolb, not considering the price. Price considered, no way.

I don't think Smith will ultimately be released, he may be traded but not released. I don't trade for him.

Young, no way. Not mentally tough, too much drama, too much unpredictability with this guy.

I'd go into the pre-season (if we have one) with Grossman, Beck, rookie. I don't grab QB before the 3rd or 4th round in this years draft. Work on the DL, OLB & OL this off-season and trade back/stockpile picks if possible. Work on QB next year.

The upcoming season will be a struggle and we're unlikely to make the playoffs, begin the true rebuilding now.

I'd hope that we can pick up an extra #2 through a trade down and get Ponder.

Otherwise you are once again the voice of reason, Sammy.