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Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
Yeah I think talking in such absolutes, as I have and others too, isn't very realistic. It's going to come down to making the best decisions we can given the situation. If we can land a starting T and G later in the draft and there is a stud QB there for us then yeah we do it.But it's probably more likely the the least risky route is to get a good T in 1 and go from there.
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Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
That depends on who's making the pick IMO. If it's Vinny, yeah we do. He only seems to be good in the first and seventh.
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Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
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Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
your logic scares me, knock it off, we don't like that kinda thinkin around here
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Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
If we want players the caliber of Russell Okung we do. Why not try to get the best o-line we can for once?
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Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
Especially given the success of first-round tackles over the past couple of seasons, I don't see why we can't get a franchise tackle.
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Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
Do we want one stud or quality across the line, depth included?
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Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
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Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny |
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Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
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We also need management competent enough to add depth during the lower rounds and/or free agency (like what Parcells did in Miami).
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Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
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Personally, I think our best bet is to trade down (what else is new?) in the first round, pick up a 2nd rounder and then use our first 3 picks (all in rounds 1 and 2) on a starting OT, a QB who can start in 2011, and another OL. Its going to take us a couple of years to fix this thing, so we might as well do it right. Our first priorities are drafting a QB of the future (not the present) and building a solid offensive line (starters - rounds 1-2) with good depth (backups - developmental guys in rounds 3-7).
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Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
A first round stud and depth from the second or 3rd rounds. I wouldn't be opposed to drafting more than one 0-lineman. That seems to be what we do with receivers and LB's.
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Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
I would like to see us trade the 1st for a later 1st and 2nd/3rd or multiple 2nd's and 3rd's given how high we will be in the draft. Use at least 3 picks for OL with 2 for tackles and 1 for guard or center. Use a later pick to get a decent qb or honestly, just stick with JC.
Most important step, get rid of Bugel, that guy sucks he took Stephon Heyer and regressed him, took Dockery and regressed him, took Rhinehart and did nothing with him so Buges is a big problem in my mind. Sure it will take a couple of years but so what, instead of trying to patch up the team, build it from the ground floor up and give up the next year or two.
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Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
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As for Buges, I don't know what the situation really is.. Some people re saying that it's because of Buges.. While others re saying that it's because of Vinny's stupidity.. But we most definitely have to give Buges some benefit of doubts, only because what he had done for Redskins franchise.. Although I do agree that it's probably better scenario for Buges and Redskins to apart after this season.. It's time to revamp the coaches, and let Zorn or our new head coach (handpicked by our new GM) pick his own coaches.. The only coaches I would like the head coach to keep is Danny Smith and Jerry Gray.. |
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Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
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Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny |
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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Re: Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)
it is truely gonna come down to who is there, and who fits our team, i have thought that we should draft an o lineman, in the first round and a qb second cause there are alot of great qb's this year, but at the same time smootsmack is right if the right qb is there might as well take him then draft lineman, main thing is we need someone who can legitimatly asess talent instead of a bugged raquetball partner
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