Which NFC East team is most likely to implode

SBXVII · 08-30-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Washington, QB is under the gun. The team tried to replace him twice in the offseason. Zorn is going to be on the hot seat, especially if the offense stumbles in the first few weeks of the season.

Only team in the division where BOTH starting QB and Coach are under the microscope.

Second would be Philly, the Vick "circus" will have its affect. It was obvious at the signing presser that the Eagles owner did the deal under extreme duress. McNabb is making offensive calls on the sidelines and actually has more authority than the O-Coordinator.

You've got to be kidding us right? I'll be honest I don't like Dallas but I would not pick them to be the ones to implode cause I honestly don't think they will be in the running this yr. To me implosion means a team expected to do well and ends up having a horrible year. So with that in mind....everyone is picking the Eagles to win the division and end up in the SB. Maybe they will fool me but I don't see the high flying Eagles we saw in the SB a few yrs ago. I see implosion written all over them.

The Giants are a close second. I still think they are the team to beat but losing two WR's of the caliber they did is going to hurt them. They have been taken down a notch.

I don't think anyone can say the Skins since most people had the Skins finishing last in the division this yr and honestly from what I'm seeing so far it looks like (again in my oppinion) we may be the team to beat if we can just get the first win against the Giants.

SBXVII · 08-30-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I don't think Washington would implode for a few reasons. First, the expectations are so low. Second, we don't have a TO, Pacman, or Brandon Marshall kind of guy who is going to cause a ton of drama.

Dallas, on the other hand, is under enormous pressure to produce a playoff victory. Dallas' wide receiver corps is the worst in the division, and that's saying a lot. They shed a lot of their "bad character" guys in the offseason, but I see big trouble if they swoon in December.

Dallas is a contender, but I think they are the most likely to implode.

This is exactly why I don't count them as "in the running." Their star WR now is getting all banged up and hurt by rookies. LOL

budw38 · 08-30-2009, 10:23 PM

I say , if we can get the last 4 minutes of our 2005 MNF game in dallas to play ,,, over and over and over again on the cowturds new mega million " big screen " during there home games ,,, they implode first . " he's my qb man " ,,, " I love him " ,,,, he's my qb ... waaa waaa waaaa

GO SKINS

sandtrapjack · 08-31-2009, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I don't think Washington would implode for a few reasons. First, the expectations are so low. Second, we don't have a TO, Pacman, or Brandon Marshall kind of guy who is going to cause a ton of drama.

Dallas, on the other hand, is under enormous pressure to produce a playoff victory. Dallas' wide receiver corps is the worst in the division, and that's saying a lot. They shed a lot of their "bad character" guys in the offseason, but I see big trouble if they swoon in December.

Dallas is a contender, but I think they are the most likely to implode.

This is the NFC East my friend. One of only 2 divisions in the past several years to send 3 of 4 teams to the playoffs practically every year. There is no greater pressure to produce than in the NFC East.

Teams like Cincy, Cleveland, Kansas City, Houston can publicly state "we are rebuilding" and get away with it for 3 or 4 years. But "rebuilding" is simply not a luxury the teams in the NFC East have. You will never hear that phrase used from the 4 teams in this division. All 4 teams rank in the top 10 in NFL Franchises for revenue. All 4 teams have the highest following than any other division. Failure is not an option.

What, you do not think that if Washington does not make the post season that Zorn will be listed as one of the coaches on the hot seat?

How many threads have we seen on this site alone that state the if Zorn does not come through that Shannahan will get the call from Snyder? And Zorn is only in his second year as a head coach.

Think about it. When you read or hear the media talk about other teams in the NFL, they classify a playoff BERTH as a successful season. But in the NFC East, anything less than playoff wins and Super Bowls is a failure.

They don't call it the NFC "Beast" for nothing.

Paintrain · 08-31-2009, 09:02 AM

Depends on your definition of 'implode'.

I don't think Dallas is going to implode because I don't feel that they are very good to begin with. They are a 9 win MAX team. I'd be more surprised if they went 11-5 than if they went 5-11.

The Giants are probably a solid 10 win team by just showing up, not much chance they will fall apart.

The Eagles however are closer to the team that was in last place and benched their QB in November than they are to the NFC Championship Game team they were at the end of the year. Westbrook is ALWAYS injured, I like D. Jackson but no-one else on their WR group scares me, their defense will miss Johnson and Dawkins much more than they think.

Our concerns have been well documented but we have no external expectations so there's not really the chance of an 'implosion' the way I define it.

CRedskinsRule · 08-31-2009, 09:24 AM

By implode, I was picturing a team who, due to poor performance and/or record, found it's lockerroom in turmoil, it's fan base enraged, the owner pulling the plug on somebody, and the hc/qb positions thrown into question.

I was looking at the poor performance/record igniting an implosion, not being the end result of it.

Trample the Elderly · 08-31-2009, 10:33 AM

I think that the team most likely to implode are the Dallas Cowboys. They lose a few games and it's the end of the world for them. It's like they stop showing up.

The two teams that will not implode will be Filthy and Washington. Both teams have had their ups and downs, but you never count them out on Sunday.

firstdown · 08-31-2009, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Even I don't believe it, I am kind of surprised no one has said the Redskins. Maybe there is a sense of optimism pervading the board yet

I go into each year thinking we have a chance to make the playoffs or just maybe the SB. I wear rose colored glass until the implosion is impossible to miss.

53Fan · 08-31-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I go into each year thinking we have a chance to make the playoffs or just maybe the SB. I wear rose colored glass until the implosion is impossible to miss.

I know the feeling.

Lotus · 08-31-2009, 11:45 AM

I just don't see us as having the necessary interpersonal dynamics for an implosion. We may not have the dynamics to win the Super Bowl (although I hope that we do), but I just don't see that catalytic ingredient which would lead to a meltdown.

cochise · 08-31-2009, 11:45 AM

We are all cock-eyed optimist around this time of year!

12thMan · 08-31-2009, 12:40 PM

I think every team in the NFC East is capable of being 11-5 this year. Skins included.

The Cowboys stand the biggest chance of finishing in the bottom of the division. I think the injury to Roy Williams will cause their offense to get off to a slow start. They have some holes on defense, and there's a lot of pressure on Wade to win a playoff game. Think about it, the Cowboys haven't won a playoff game since 1996. I wish the pundits spent as much time talking about that instead of their new new stadium. Which leads to another point, I think everytime a punt hits that video screen it will be an uneccessary distraction the team will have to deal with as the year goes on.

freddyg12 · 08-31-2009, 12:56 PM

Keep in mind that it could be argued that Dallas is fresh off an 'implosion' last season. I think they will maintain & maybe win 10 games.

I could see Philly playing well below expectations, but the team that really is set up for some failure IMO is the g-men. As noted already Eli & Coughlin have taken some abuse from fans. Now the fans have big expectations, but their passing game looks weak right now. I could see their D being dominant but them only winning 8 games, with a late season collapse.

In all honesty our team is ripe for an implosion, it's a make or break year for JZ, JC, which means we could easily "implode" if things don't go well.

skinsfan69 · 08-31-2009, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Washington, QB is under the gun. The team tried to replace him twice in the offseason. Zorn is going to be on the hot seat, especially if the offense stumbles in the first few weeks of the season.

Only team in the division where BOTH starting QB and Coach are under the microscope.

Second would be Philly, the Vick "circus" will have its affect. It was obvious at the signing presser that the Eagles owner did the deal under extreme duress. McNabb is making offensive calls on the sidelines and actually has more authority than the O-Coordinator.

I'd say it's between Dallas and Washington. But you bring up some good points. We could easily implode if we get off to a slow start.

skinsfan69 · 08-31-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I don't think Washington would implode for a few reasons. First, the expectations are so low. Second, we don't have a TO, Pacman, or Brandon Marshall kind of guy who is going to cause a ton of drama.

Dallas, on the other hand, is under enormous pressure to produce a playoff victory. Dallas' wide receiver corps is the worst in the division, and that's saying a lot. They shed a lot of their "bad character" guys in the offseason, but I see big trouble if they swoon in December.

Dallas is a contender, but I think they are the most likely to implode.

I don't think so. Expectations are high around here.

08-30-2009, 10:23 PM	#33
budw38 Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern,Va. Posts: 2,706	Re: Which NFC East team is most likely to implode I say , if we can get the last 4 minutes of our 2005 MNF game in dallas to play ,,, over and over and over again on the cowturds new mega million " big screen " during there home games ,,, they implode first . " he's my qb man " ,,, " I love him " ,,,, he's my qb ... waaa waaa waaaa GO SKINS

08-31-2009, 09:02 AM	#35
Paintrain Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 54 Posts: 5,006	Re: Which NFC East team is most likely to implode Depends on your definition of 'implode'. I don't think Dallas is going to implode because I don't feel that they are very good to begin with. They are a 9 win MAX team. I'd be more surprised if they went 11-5 than if they went 5-11. The Giants are probably a solid 10 win team by just showing up, not much chance they will fall apart. The Eagles however are closer to the team that was in last place and benched their QB in November than they are to the NFC Championship Game team they were at the end of the year. Westbrook is ALWAYS injured, I like D. Jackson but no-one else on their WR group scares me, their defense will miss Johnson and Dawkins much more than they think. Our concerns have been well documented but we have no external expectations so there's not really the chance of an 'implosion' the way I define it. __________________ Paintrain's Redskins Fandom 1981-2014 I'm not dead but this team is dead to me...but now that McCloughan is here they may have new life! Jay Gruden = Zorny McSpurrier Kirk Cousins = Next Grossman

08-31-2009, 09:24 AM	#36
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 58 Posts: 21,701	Re: Which NFC East team is most likely to implode By implode, I was picturing a team who, due to poor performance and/or record, found it's lockerroom in turmoil, it's fan base enraged, the owner pulling the plug on somebody, and the hc/qb positions thrown into question. I was looking at the poor performance/record igniting an implosion, not being the end result of it.

08-31-2009, 10:33 AM	#37
Trample the Elderly Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Three Chopt Virginia Age: 47 Posts: 2,906	Re: Which NFC East team is most likely to implode I think that the team most likely to implode are the Dallas Cowboys. They lose a few games and it's the end of the world for them. It's like they stop showing up. The two teams that will not implode will be Filthy and Washington. Both teams have had their ups and downs, but you never count them out on Sunday. __________________ A funny thing happened on the way to the temple. The moneychangers bought the priesthood.

08-31-2009, 11:45 AM	#40
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: Which NFC East team is most likely to implode I just don't see us as having the necessary interpersonal dynamics for an implosion. We may not have the dynamics to win the Super Bowl (although I hope that we do), but I just don't see that catalytic ingredient which would lead to a meltdown. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

08-31-2009, 11:45 AM	#41
cochise Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Jersey City, NJ Posts: 73	Re: Which NFC East team is most likely to implode We are all cock-eyed optimist around this time of year!

08-31-2009, 12:40 PM	#42
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Which NFC East team is most likely to implode I think every team in the NFC East is capable of being 11-5 this year. Skins included. The Cowboys stand the biggest chance of finishing in the bottom of the division. I think the injury to Roy Williams will cause their offense to get off to a slow start. They have some holes on defense, and there's a lot of pressure on Wade to win a playoff game. Think about it, the Cowboys haven't won a playoff game since 1996. I wish the pundits spent as much time talking about that instead of their new new stadium. Which leads to another point, I think everytime a punt hits that video screen it will be an uneccessary distraction the team will have to deal with as the year goes on.

08-31-2009, 12:56 PM	#43
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Which NFC East team is most likely to implode Keep in mind that it could be argued that Dallas is fresh off an 'implosion' last season. I think they will maintain & maybe win 10 games. I could see Philly playing well below expectations, but the team that really is set up for some failure IMO is the g-men. As noted already Eli & Coughlin have taken some abuse from fans. Now the fans have big expectations, but their passing game looks weak right now. I could see their D being dominant but them only winning 8 games, with a late season collapse. In all honesty our team is ripe for an implosion, it's a make or break year for JZ, JC, which means we could easily "implode" if things don't go well.

Which NFC East team is most likely to implode

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