Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Week 1)

redskinjim · 09-05-2008, 05:35 PM

as bad as everything was carlos rogers could have taken that pick to the house.There were three other balls that were dropped.Shawn springs would have caught a couple picks.You can really tell who your best corner is.

vallin21 · 09-05-2008, 06:45 PM

1. Reed Doughty: we cannot have him at safety. He is a huge liability everywhere I cant watch him for an entire season making tackle ten yards late and getting beat deep.
2. Carlos Rodgers: I will not be as hard on you but you cannot drop easy ints. Once we play a few more games and you still look like crap you need to be off the team by the end off the Year.
3. I agree with Mattyk72 why are we not getting Cooley the ball!!! Zorn said he would be a weapon in the pass game yet he called cooley number twice. That has to change

EternalEnigma21 · 09-05-2008, 06:46 PM

cooley and for that matter... i didn't even see the rookie tight end fred davis anywhere on the field... where the hell is he??

Boston Brave · 09-05-2008, 07:24 PM

9. Chris Cooley. My favorite player, however not able to make key blocks due to scheme or Giant D-line abilty. Had nice run post catch, but did count due to penalty.

djnemo65 · 09-05-2008, 08:08 PM

Jason Campbell - read the defense, make the pass. On the first passing play for the Skins, in which Campbell was violently sacked, Cooley was wide freaking open but was never seen. This was a trend that would continue.

Jim Zorn - pass on second down. Campbell was consistently put in third and long situations in the second half. When going against a blitzing defense with a qb whose confidence is shaky this is a recipe for disaster.

53Fan · 09-05-2008, 09:05 PM

I can't believe how some people are reacting to this loss. I guess we should of gotten rid of Gibbs when he went 0-5 his first time around. We did'nt look too good then either. I know we did'nt look good in this loss but we WILL make adjustments. Thats what good coaches do when given TIME. I have faith in this team and coaching staff. We will lose again and we won't look good when we do it. We never look good when we lose. The giants lost a few games in the regular season last year, the patriots lost none. You tell me who had the most successful year.

DIRTEE · 09-05-2008, 09:13 PM

We looked terrible and the Giants looked terrible but escaped with the win. There's nothing to cry about, JC sees his errors, JZ knows what the team needs to do to prepare for the next game. Tough loss. Cry if the team goes 1-4, then we might need to move pieces around. Kendall #1; Fletcher is a beast.

Ruhskins · 09-06-2008, 01:01 AM

Ok people you all need to be consistent....get on Springs case for not playing while hurt, while faulting Jason Taylor for playing WHILE hurt? So which one is correct? Besides, Jacobs ran all over the entire defense. Yes they were running in the direction of Taylor, but a number of times he ran up the middle, and he wasn't stopped.

And once again stop focusing on one guy just b/c you don't like him. Reed Doughty along with the ENTIRE secondary did not play well. Everytime Burress caught the ball the nearest Redskins defender was at least 5 yards away from him, if not further away.

Yet despite their shortcomings, kudos to the entire defense for stepping it up and holding the Giants to 16 pts in the first half and no points in the second half. I am positive they will do much better with a healthy Spring and Taylor. Although, I think the team needs to rotate Evans or one of our DEs who's better at stopping the run (do we have one) on obvious running situations.

hucapn · 09-06-2008, 02:52 AM

Ok, lets keep this real simple. I will attack this from a straight football perspective. Brandon Jacobs is 6'4" 264. Any pro football players trying to square up and put a hit on this guy to bring him down is crazy. We as a team are ALREADY poor talkers and yet we stil insist on going for the big hit every time. Yes Sean did it and we loved it. But guess what, THE REST OF THEM ARE NOT THAT GOOD. We saw it against jacksonville and Carolina. Arm tackles should have stopped in high school. And when you're giving up six to seven yards a pop on runs, the play action and pumps/bootlegs will kill you because you have a 6'5" freak with hands running around on our SECOND AND THIRD CORNERS and Reed "What did you say" Doughty. I'm disgusted. and if we thought that was bad, here's some reasons why it will get worse:

1.) Marques Colston
2.) Stephen Jackson
3.) The Cardinals w/four wide
4.) FUCKING SEATTLE AGAIN
5.) Carlos still can't catch a cold

ps THANKS OUT LOUD TO FLETCHER AND CARTER FOR BEING MEN ON THE FIELD

over the mountain · 09-08-2008, 04:30 PM

yeah i like zorn's straight up talk . . .to add to what zorn said in his press conference about not using timeouts when we had the ball with 3 minutes left was interesting and insightful. basically he was hoping for a quick score then if we didnt get the ball from the onside we would still have enough timeouts to make the giants punt and not be able to take a knee. makes sense to me.

did i hear right that zorn said that we couldnt go fast paced no huddle because we dont have a 2 min drill or no huddle offense installed yet?

go skins!

firstdown · 09-08-2008, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by over the mountain

yeah i like zorn's straight up talk . . .to add to what zorn said in his press conference about not using timeouts when we had the ball with 3 minutes left was interesting and insightful. basically he was hoping for a quick score then if we didnt get the ball from the onside we would still have enough timeouts to make the giants punt and not be able to take a knee. makes sense to me.

did i hear right that zorn said that we couldnt go fast paced no huddle because we dont have a 2 min drill or no huddle offense installed yet?

go skins!

Well with learning a new play book I guess you pick what to learn and what order it goes. 2 min drill and no huddle is important but learning the plays first help them run smoother.

The time out thing makes sense but I was just hoping for a quick first down at that point.

doughtydoubter · 09-08-2008, 05:49 PM

Our D is really not this issue at this point...it is and always has been our offense the past decade...we need to score. If we are to be run run pass...we need to be dominant at it. If we are to be pass happy, then we need to execute and obtain first downs. I have cooled off quite a bit and overall i was pretty proud of the d stepping up. I still remain extremely displeased with the play calling

09-05-2008, 06:45 PM	#2
vallin21 The Starter Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,180	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Week 1) 1. Reed Doughty: we cannot have him at safety. He is a huge liability everywhere I cant watch him for an entire season making tackle ten yards late and getting beat deep. 2. Carlos Rodgers: I will not be as hard on you but you cannot drop easy ints. Once we play a few more games and you still look like crap you need to be off the team by the end off the Year. 3. I agree with Mattyk72 why are we not getting Cooley the ball!!! Zorn said he would be a weapon in the pass game yet he called cooley number twice. That has to change

09-05-2008, 06:46 PM	#3
EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Carbondale CO Age: 45 Posts: 2,958	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Week 1) cooley and for that matter... i didn't even see the rookie tight end fred davis anywhere on the field... where the hell is he?? __________________ I am the brute squad.

09-05-2008, 07:24 PM	#4
Boston Brave Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 44	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Week 1) 9. Chris Cooley. My favorite player, however not able to make key blocks due to scheme or Giant D-line abilty. Had nice run post catch, but did count due to penalty.

09-05-2008, 08:08 PM	#5
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,836	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Week 1) Jason Campbell - read the defense, make the pass. On the first passing play for the Skins, in which Campbell was violently sacked, Cooley was wide freaking open but was never seen. This was a trend that would continue. Jim Zorn - pass on second down. Campbell was consistently put in third and long situations in the second half. When going against a blitzing defense with a qb whose confidence is shaky this is a recipe for disaster.

09-05-2008, 09:05 PM	#6
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Week 1) I can't believe how some people are reacting to this loss. I guess we should of gotten rid of Gibbs when he went 0-5 his first time around. We did'nt look too good then either. I know we did'nt look good in this loss but we WILL make adjustments. Thats what good coaches do when given TIME. I have faith in this team and coaching staff. We will lose again and we won't look good when we do it. We never look good when we lose. The giants lost a few games in the regular season last year, the patriots lost none. You tell me who had the most successful year.

09-05-2008, 05:35 PM	#1
redskinjim Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: fresno ca Posts: 377	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Week 1) as bad as everything was carlos rogers could have taken that pick to the house.There were three other balls that were dropped.Shawn springs would have caught a couple picks.You can really tell who your best corner is.

09-05-2008, 09:13 PM	#7
DIRTEE Special Teams Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 256	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Week 1) We looked terrible and the Giants looked terrible but escaped with the win. There's nothing to cry about, JC sees his errors, JZ knows what the team needs to do to prepare for the next game. Tough loss. Cry if the team goes 1-4, then we might need to move pieces around. Kendall #1; Fletcher is a beast.

09-06-2008, 01:01 AM	#8
Ruhskins Living Legend Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 22,378	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Week 1) Ok people you all need to be consistent....get on Springs case for not playing while hurt, while faulting Jason Taylor for playing WHILE hurt? So which one is correct? Besides, Jacobs ran all over the entire defense. Yes they were running in the direction of Taylor, but a number of times he ran up the middle, and he wasn't stopped. And once again stop focusing on one guy just b/c you don't like him. Reed Doughty along with the ENTIRE secondary did not play well. Everytime Burress caught the ball the nearest Redskins defender was at least 5 yards away from him, if not further away. Yet despite their shortcomings, kudos to the entire defense for stepping it up and holding the Giants to 16 pts in the first half and no points in the second half. I am positive they will do much better with a healthy Spring and Taylor. Although, I think the team needs to rotate Evans or one of our DEs who's better at stopping the run (do we have one) on obvious running situations. __________________ R.I.P. #21

09-06-2008, 02:52 AM	#9
hucapn Camp Scrub Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 24	What happened vs. NYG Ok, lets keep this real simple. I will attack this from a straight football perspective. Brandon Jacobs is 6'4" 264. Any pro football players trying to square up and put a hit on this guy to bring him down is crazy. We as a team are ALREADY poor talkers and yet we stil insist on going for the big hit every time. Yes Sean did it and we loved it. But guess what, THE REST OF THEM ARE NOT THAT GOOD. We saw it against jacksonville and Carolina. Arm tackles should have stopped in high school. And when you're giving up six to seven yards a pop on runs, the play action and pumps/bootlegs will kill you because you have a 6'5" freak with hands running around on our SECOND AND THIRD CORNERS and Reed "What did you say" Doughty. I'm disgusted. and if we thought that was bad, here's some reasons why it will get worse: 1.) Marques Colston 2.) Stephen Jackson 3.) The Cardinals w/four wide 4.) FUCKING SEATTLE AGAIN 5.) Carlos still can't catch a cold ps THANKS OUT LOUD TO FLETCHER AND CARTER FOR BEING MEN ON THE FIELD

09-08-2008, 04:30 PM	#10
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: close to the edge Posts: 4,926	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Week 1) yeah i like zorn's straight up talk . . .to add to what zorn said in his press conference about not using timeouts when we had the ball with 3 minutes left was interesting and insightful. basically he was hoping for a quick score then if we didnt get the ball from the onside we would still have enough timeouts to make the giants punt and not be able to take a knee. makes sense to me. did i hear right that zorn said that we couldnt go fast paced no huddle because we dont have a 2 min drill or no huddle offense installed yet? go skins!

09-08-2008, 05:49 PM	#12
doughtydoubter Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: the glorious city of DC Posts: 741	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Week 1) Our D is really not this issue at this point...it is and always has been our offense the past decade...we need to score. If we are to be run run pass...we need to be dominant at it. If we are to be pass happy, then we need to execute and obtain first downs. I have cooled off quite a bit and overall i was pretty proud of the d stepping up. I still remain extremely displeased with the play calling

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