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View Poll Results: Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins:
A 60 20.48%
B 186 63.48%
C 40 13.65%
D 4 1.37%
F 3 1.02%
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Old 04-27-2008, 07:59 PM   #1
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B+. I'm a little concerned that our top 3 picks slipped so far, but I obviously don't have the info that professional scouts have. I don't think we made any panic picks, in fact, I think passing on calais was a good move, especially since miami DEs traditionally underachieve.
Well, ALL the WRs projected for the first round slipped to the second round so I don't think is that bad.
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Old 04-27-2008, 07:59 PM   #2
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Re: Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins

It's a B for me but it has potential to become an A 3 or so years down the road if half these guys make the team and become solid contributers/starters eventually.
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Old 04-27-2008, 08:00 PM   #3
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Re: Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins

I especially love our top 4 picks.

Obviously we got tremendous value in taking Thomas and Kelly where we got them. Davis was one of the better TEs available and it should be interesting to see him paired with Cooley on the field at the same time. We seriously upgraded our offensive weapons with these top 3 picks. The front office was committed to getting Campbell some weapons this year and they definitely delivered on that.

Chad Rinehart seems like a mauler with a lot of potential to develop into a starter sooner rather than later.
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Old 04-27-2008, 08:57 PM   #4
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Re: Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins

Joe Bugel will turn Rinehart into a pro-bowler. At least, that's what I'm hoping. I was a little perplexed by the first three picks, but I think they addressed our biggest problem with Thomas, Davis, and Kelley : red zone scoring. A day later, I love those first three picks. The more weapons, the better.
A lot of people wanted to draft o-line and d-line, which is understandable, but I think the d-line was great against the run last year and the o-line was decent and can only be better with the return of Jansen and Thomas. I really like the punter. The most underrated player on the Giants Super Bowl team was Jeff Feagles. He always seems to give the opposing team bad field position. My only gripe is the selection of Colt Brennan. He seems to have been selected on name alone, kind of like Jordan Palmer. Overall though, I give it a B+.

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Old 04-27-2008, 08:01 PM   #5
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Solid B+ for me. Had we used one of the WR picks on oline or dline, i may have gone w/ an A.

I really can't argue w/ the logic though. One of the 2 should produce early. I like the olineman we picked up. I like Brennan in the late rounds too.

I really like the Davis pick too for the WC offense. Not bad. Next year we've got to pick some olineman/dlineman though.
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Old 04-27-2008, 08:37 PM   #6
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Re: Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins

C.

Things I liked:

1. We got our big receiver. One of those receivers we drafted is going to be a factor, and they both have the potential to be great if they are worked in the right areas.
2. We did draft O-line for a little depth. Turns out Mr. Rinehart can play both guard and tackle well. Nothing better for depth than a utility guy. I'm sure in a few years he will be able to step in and start.


Things I didn't like:
1. Why wait so late to go for a defensive end? We could have had Quentin Groves instead of Malcolm Kelly. Even if we didn't want Quentin Groves we could have had a number of better d-ends than what we ended up with. Why the wait?
2. Instead of a punter we very easily could have gone for more depth on the o-line.
3. Why draft 2 safeties? Even though I'm pretty certain the only time on the field either of them will be seeing is special teams.
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Old 04-28-2008, 08:12 AM   #7
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C.

Things I liked:

1. We got our big receiver. One of those receivers we drafted is going to be a factor, and they both have the potential to be great if they are worked in the right areas.
2. We did draft O-line for a little depth. Turns out Mr. Rinehart can play both guard and tackle well. Nothing better for depth than a utility guy. I'm sure in a few years he will be able to step in and start.


Things I didn't like:
1. Why wait so late to go for a defensive end? We could have had Quentin Groves instead of Malcolm Kelly. Even if we didn't want Quentin Groves we could have had a number of better d-ends than what we ended up with. Why the wait?
2. Instead of a punter we very easily could have gone for more depth on the o-line.
3. Why draft 2 safeties? Even though I'm pretty certain the only time on the field either of them will be seeing is special teams.
I agree with your analysis 100%.

One thing I would like to add about the pick regarding the 2nd safety taken. I believe that we could have used that last pick on Vince Hall (LB VT). The staff talked about possibly picking up another LB in the draft. I was stunned that he went undrafted. He would have been a steal in the 7th. He is even more of a steal as a UFA for whatever team signs him.
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Old 04-27-2008, 08:02 PM   #8
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Well part of the reason they slipped is because nobody thought they were good enough to take in the first round. Virtually everywhere I looked, and Mike Mayock in particular, had the entire wr class as not being first round worthy. I know some people said that wide receivers might be taken toward the end of the draft, and maybe the Bills would reach for Devin Thomas at #11, but I really didn't see anyone saying that there were wide receivers worthy of being taken in the first round. With that said though we got great value for Thomas and Kelly because some thought us or another team would reach for them in the first.
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Old 04-27-2008, 08:08 PM   #9
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Well part of the reason they slipped is because nobody thought they were good enough to take in the first round. Virtually everywhere I looked, and Mike Mayock in particular, had the entire wr class as not being first round worthy. I know some people said that wide receivers might be taken toward the end of the draft, and maybe the Bills would reach for Devin Thomas at #11, but I really didn't see anyone saying that there were wide receivers worthy of being taken in the first round. With that said though we got great value for Thomas and Kelly because some thought us or another team would reach for them in the first.
Yeah, i agree. We did get 2 of the top receviers though. You never know. It seems like the majority of times high lever WR's are drafted in the middle rounds anyhow. It will be interesting to see.
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Old 04-27-2008, 08:10 PM   #10
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Re: Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins

I gave the draft a B+ I like every pick but the Punter he got drafted too early in my opinion & Colt Brennan but I trust Jim Zorn he feels he can develop him into something 2 or 3 years from now I going with the coach but I can't see it. Kelly & Thomas were much needed picks plus Davis will give Campbell more targets in the red zone. I believe Davis is a big upgrade over Todd Yoder that saw a good bit of PT last year.
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Old 04-27-2008, 08:11 PM   #11
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Re: Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins

People give this draft a D or an F? Wtf? I say it all grades out to a provisional B. We got two receivers who will battle to be the #2/#3 receiver on the field. We got a #2 TE for two tight end packages that can catch passes. We got a guy who will be able to fit in on the O-Line sooner than later. We got a CB who will have a chance to be a nickel or dime back this year. A punter who won't shank the ball whenever it matters. 2 safeties to battle for the #3 safety job and play special teams. A DE who was projected much higher. And a #3 QB who we can develop. Seems pretty good.
I can't imagine what anybody sees to give this draft a D or and F. Sounds like d-baggery.
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Old 04-27-2008, 08:24 PM   #12
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Re: Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins

Chalk it up to a B+ for me as well! I am one of the guys who really wanted D line help, but based on the talent they added and their very clear showing of what they were trying to accomplish I can be happy with the end result.

They seemed like they had a plan and stuck with it. I was very impressed with the trades for additional picks, and let’s face it we would have only ended up with one of the two receivers we got had we not traded with Atlanta. We have had a bit of trouble drafting that position and I think by taking two early you not only give your self a better chance to land a stud, but you put two young guys together to battle it up from day one. Hopefully, the competition brings out the best in both of them, which I feel it will.

It feels good to have a full draft, huh boys, lets keep protesting to keep all of our picks for years to come. This had to be one of the best draft weekends I have had in a long time!
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Old 04-27-2008, 08:26 PM   #13
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Re: Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins

I think I would give the Skins a B for this one. They did a really good job at "Sticking to the board" by drafting offensive weapons who can make Jason Campbell look better and take the focus off of Moss and ARE. It also solidifies our wide receiver core. I think that the Skins could have gone defense a little earlier but overall, Cerrato and Snyder did a pretty decent job this year.
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Old 04-27-2008, 08:27 PM   #14
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Re: Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins

I gave our draft a B (but would better characterize it as a B-). This is how i saw things shake out...

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- In the spirit of optimism, I will give the players we did draft the benefit of the doubt. We will probably get 3 or 4 starters (not including punting as a starting position) out of our 10 picks
- The FO did a GREAT job IMO of moving around and getting the best # and position of picks. Hats off to Vinny for his wheeling and dealing!
- We probably didn't get really risky with our picks and I think that even if all these guys don't start, they will make an impact on the team (special teams, quality depth, etc)


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- I really felt we didn't fully address our needs like we should have given the players available at a given pick. I could be wrong but it seemed like we fell into the trap of following a draft trend rather than setting it. In other words we would often take a certain player b/c there were only so many players of that position left on the board. Rather I wish we would have had a little bit better foresight
- Stockpiling receivers with ALL of our precious #2 picks seemed a little Lionesque and I disagree with it. We could have picked up a really good D-linemen or CB with one of those picks. Obviously they did their research but it seemed to me that this wasn't the best move for the team.

The bottom line is that anytime a playoff team can pick up 10 players (5 in the first 4 rounds) in the draft with adequate cap space to keep them, it has to be a pretty good draft!
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Old 04-27-2008, 08:38 PM   #15
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Re: Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins

From a value standpoint, I think we got an A for day 1 and a B- for day 2. I liked how we repeatedly traded down for more picks. I also like that our offense is loaded at the skill positions. But, I am nervous about the lack of depth along the D-line and O-line. I'd give us a B+ for value and a B/B- for filling perceived needs.
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