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Old 02-12-2008, 10:20 AM   #1
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Re: Well, just like old times..

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I read that too. I read he was ahead of schedule and should be ready for training camp.
Most accounts have him 9-12 months of rehab away from playing (he had surgery at the beginning of January, I believe). That's September at best, but far from a sure thing at this point until we see how he responds to PT. I do recall Gibbs saying he hoped he would be ready at the earlier end of that, but I don't recall any basis for his speculation.
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Old 02-12-2008, 10:27 AM   #2
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I thought I read something a month or so ago where Bubba tyer said rocky should be ready by the beginning of the season.
With Rock, I dont know what he is asking for either, but with his stellar play on special teams as the kick returner and coverage he found his niche on this team. I think rock is a tremendous team mate and locker room leader.
I think more than anything Rock wants the chance to carry the ball more, and with Betts and Portis ahead of him that's just not going to happen here.
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Old 02-12-2008, 10:09 AM   #3
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I enjoyed the article. First of all, I don't think the changes mentioned are that outrageous, but let's also look at how many changes have recently happened in DC. We have a complete change of philosophy in offense which may require new personnel, ie a big named receiver like a Chad Johnson. I think we could get him for relatively cheap. Unfortunately, I think Vinny's biggest downside is his negotiation prowess (or lack there of). I've heard two 3rds for Chad Johnson rumored on NFL radio, I'd give that up in a second for a true #1 receiver which is something the skins desperately lack.

As usual people want to bag on Snyder for no particular reason.
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Old 02-12-2008, 10:32 AM   #4
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CJ still has a few quality years left, at 30 he could easily go another 4-5 years at his current level of play. Not saying I want him, just saying.
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Old 02-12-2008, 10:38 AM   #5
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CJ still has a few quality years left, at 30 he could easily go another 4-5 years at his current level of play. Not saying I want him, just saying.

that's a good point TO is 34
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Old 02-12-2008, 11:15 AM   #6
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that's a good point TO is 34
Yep, and Moss is 31 this year, Reggie Wayne 30, and Torry Holt 32. That's half of the top 10 receivers in the league (including 4 of the top 5 in yardage). I have no problem getting a 30-year old receiver if he can be productive.
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Old 02-12-2008, 12:50 PM   #7
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Yep, and Moss is 31 this year, Reggie Wayne 30, and Torry Holt 32. That's half of the top 10 receivers in the league (including 4 of the top 5 in yardage). I have no problem getting a 30-year old receiver if he can be productive.
A lot of you guys are also forgetting that Chad is a workout warrior, so if worst comes to worst he will be productive for up to 6 more years. Mark my words Chad Johnson will be a Redskin next year.
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Old 02-12-2008, 01:03 PM   #8
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A lot of you guys are also forgetting that Chad is a workout warrior, so if worst comes to worst he will be productive for up to 6 more years. Mark my words Chad Johnson will be a Redskin next year.
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Old 02-12-2008, 10:33 AM   #9
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I loved this article...really no big suprises to me.
Nothing shocking and certainly nothing that says just like old times.

One nice point below that i didn't expect to see but many here pointed out as a need in prior threads:

"Team sources said Snyder is considering expanding his training rehab staff to help limit and cope with the number of hamstring issues, which were prevalent on the team in 2007"
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Old 02-12-2008, 11:13 AM   #10
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Yup. People are completely misreading a newspaper article and starting an exaggerated thread fueled mainly by panic and ignorance...just like old times indeed.
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Old 02-12-2008, 11:15 AM   #11
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Yup. People are completely misreading a newspaper article and starting an exaggerated thread fueled mainly by panic and ignorance...just like old times indeed.
Did those old times ever go away?

Sounds like the same old, same old.
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Old 02-12-2008, 11:20 AM   #12
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I think what is getting people is the amount of info JLC threw into the post.

First off most of it is not hards news but rather source based speculation.
Second, I think we can pretty much expect not everything to happen even though most of the moves make complete sense.

This is what every team does. At the end of the season and the beginning of the off season they look at thier roster and figure out what needs to be fixed and what ways they can fix them. I can't say I disagree at all with what they apparently feel needs fixing.

Face it at some spots we are simply old and have serious injury risk/concern. We are an NFL team and this is the way it goes.
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Old 02-12-2008, 12:09 PM   #13
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CJ would be a great addition. I'm just not sure he is needed. When healthy, Moss can still be a deep threat, and can still put up numbers as good as Chad.
If by putting up numbers, you mean drops. I'm with you.
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Old 02-12-2008, 12:12 PM   #14
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After watching Moss fumble, drop passes, and limp his way through last season I've lost most of my faith in him as a #1 WR. He would be much better suited as a #2, and ARE as the #3.
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Old 02-12-2008, 12:18 PM   #15
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I think that alot of times we think Dan is overhauling all the time, but that is because we have too many head coaching changes. If we can get coaching positions stabilized, we will be fine. A new coach probably will have different styles than the previous (I sure hope so in this case!!), so maybe Zorn wants him in there. If Dan wasn't aggressive in getting players, people would complain, and now he is determined to build a winner and do it at all cost, and people complain.
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