Does anyone feel as if the Redskins Organization is dismantling Joe Gibb's work?

[rickmmrr]

It's looking more and more like Gibbs 2 will be remembered as a short term gain that ushered in a long term curse. It looks as if Gibbs 2 has made Snyder into a football guru. At least in his own mind.

"If it ain't broke." OH the humanity.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

The thing that really hurts is, that I thought this team became a family after everything it endured and the way they pulled together, only to be destroyed by who knows why. We were so close to getting to a SB next year and now who knows what the future holds now, so far it doesn't look promising.

Snyder is a business man, not a football man. Look at us here in Detroit with the Fords. They never really knew football, just wanted to be hip owning a sports franchise. Now their car company is going down the tubes. Anybody with season tickets has to feel like a total ass right now. Unless he does get Cowher or asks Marty to comeback, I don't give much stock in a playoff run next season. We might lose some FA's also because of this!!!!!!

[CPAlltheWay012]

well it would appear Williams is gone...

thanks a f***ing lot snyder..

[JCK and RFK]

Redshikns will never win as long as Snyder is running the show. Same as Dallas and jerry jones.

[AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace]

the Cowboys HAVE won with Jerry Jones...don't you remember the 90's???

[maxiemom]

ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!

It only Took Dan Snyder a couple of weeks to show me once again why I truly despise him: he brought Joe Gibbs out of retirement, who then turned the Redskins back from being the biggest joke in the NFL back into a playoff contender, and true to form, DANNY BOY DESTROYS EVERYTHING ONCE AGAIN! Is he truly insane? Has he absolutely no sense? I am so sick and tired of the horror he has inflicted on the team I have loved since childhood that I can no longer bear to watch. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS MAN? WHY HIRE GIBBS AT ALL IF YOU WON'T EVEN FOLLOW THROUGH ON WHAT HE'S LEFT IN PLACE FOR THE FUTURE? There was no need to rebuild, but this jerk has demolished the building yet again. Someone please find a way to fire the owner!!!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by maxiemom

ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!

It only Took Dan Snyder a couple of weeks to show me once again why I truly despise him: he brought Joe Gibbs out of retirement, who then turned the Redskins back from being the biggest joke in the NFL back into a playoff contender, and true to form, DANNY BOY DESTROYS EVERYTHING ONCE AGAIN! Is he truly insane? Has he absolutely no sense? I am so sick and tired of the horror he has inflicted on the team I have loved since childhood that I can no longer bear to watch. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS MAN? WHY HIRE GIBBS AT ALL IF YOU WON'T EVEN FOLLOW THROUGH ON WHAT HE'S LEFT IN PLACE FOR THE FUTURE? There was no need to rebuild, but this jerk has demolished the building yet again. Someone please find a way to fire the owner!!!

See this is the problem right here. You have people have already decided "Everything is destroyed once again" and that this was all Snyder being evil and kicking Williams to the curb, while smearing him. All assumptions from an impatient fanbase that refuses to take a breath and wait for things to play themselves out.

Even if Williams (or his agent, as he already basically did) comes out and says "Look, we have no problem with each other, we just couldn't come to an agreement," it won't matter to anyone because people just don't want to hear it.

And I understand this is largely attributable to Snyder's past reputation, but let's not forget Williams' past reputation is not exactly a rosy one.

But this unfortunately is the eternal damage that has been done to this franchise. There is no trust or patience anymore.

[Skinnette]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

He was just telling us what we wanted to hear.. He gave us the bait and we took it. Hook, line and sinker.

I agree. He knew he was going to rip it apart. How does he ever expect to win if he keeps tearing down and rebuilding from scratch. If they haven't started yet, the players need to start updating their resumes.

[21 4ever]

We have wasted the last 4 years.

We spent that time rediscovering "Redskins Values": toughness, personal responsibility, humility and the value of victory. Getting back to your values is difficult and now we have players that believe it. Players who will say "I cost us the game because I dropped the pass." "Put it on me and I will run us to victory." Now our owner has proven that he has not embraced these values, but rather has returned to his "Fantasy Football" game but with coaches instead.

I was at the Dallas game on December 30. If you want to know why Saint Joe needed to return to us, you need only look at that victory against a bigger, better team who has also returned to their values of celebrity, arrogance and victory.

GW was the heir apparent that would keep those values going but Snyder wizzed it away.

I hope I am wrong, but I believe we are once again lost.

[SouperMeister]

I wonder how Joe Gibbs feels about all this. My guess is that he's sick over the way Williams was handled in the end. It never would have gone down this way when Gibbs was President of Football Operations. Even if Williams wasn't wanted, you don't leave a valued employee, respected by players and peers, hanging in limbo for nearly two weeks if you pride yourself for running a class organization.

[prinzeofmoval]

come on lets be serious....what has gibbs done his last tenure? Nothing...1-2 in the playoffs..and GW has had spots of greatness as a DC not a head coach(he bombed in Buffalo) and Saunders high power offense works better on Madden 03 with the chiefs then this year with the redskins. I say clean house..the chargers did last year and won more playoff games this season then the last 4 combined..Snyder drew his line you dont make millions by being a idiot

[CPAlltheWay012]

Originally Posted by prinzeofmoval

come on lets be serious....what has gibbs done his last tenure? Nothing...1-2 in the playoffs..and GW has had spots of greatness as a DC not a head coach(he bombed in Buffalo) and Saunders high power offense works better on Madden 03 with the chiefs then this year with the redskins. I say clean house..the chargers did last year and won more playoff games this season then the last 4 combined..Snyder drew his line you dont make millions by being a idiot

WOW... because that's nothing compared to years past:smashfrea

[SFREDSKIN]

Here's a good article from Newsday.com

Snyder driving Redskins' bus off the road again -- Newsday.com

[SmootSmack]

What's good about the article exactly? I still can't believe no one is making Glauber eat crow for what he said at the beginning of the season when he said the Redskins wouldn't win more than 3 or 4 games and were a lock to get the 1st pick in the 2008 draft

[SFREDSKIN]

This quote from the article: Memo to Spagnuolo: Do not, under any circumstances, take this job. It has failure written all over it.