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Old 09-05-2007, 05:10 PM   #1
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Re: RI: Collins is the no. 2

I am amazed at the continued bile thrown Mark Brunell's way. Do these fellow warpath members really think they can evaluate a quarterback's performance than Joe Gibbs?

With two solid backups, we are likely in better shape at that position than many NFL teams. The only real issue is that they're about the same age, we tried to address that in the draft -- it just didn't work out.

And no, the season would not be over without Campbell. Things would get tougher for sure, but certainly not impossible. Philadelphia certainly managed to survive McNabb's season-ending injury last year. Why not us?

Stop being so pessimistic...
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Old 09-05-2007, 05:12 PM   #2
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Re: RI: Collins is the no. 2

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I am amazed at the continued bile thrown Mark Brunell's way. Do these fellow warpath members really think they can evaluate a quarterback's performance than Joe Gibbs?

With two solid backups, we are likely in better shape at that position than many NFL teams. The only real issue is that they're about the same age, we tried to address that in the draft -- it just didn't work out.

And no, the season would not be over without Campbell. Things would get tougher for sure, but certainly not impossible. Philadelphia certainly managed to survive McNabb's season-ending injury last year. Why not us?

Stop being so pessimistic...
I take it you haven't been around here very long.

Brunell is public enemy #1 to a lot of people.
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Old 09-05-2007, 05:20 PM   #3
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I take it you haven't been around here very long.

Brunell is public enemy #1 to a lot of people.

I've been lurking around the forum for a very long time, just haven't posted much. Doesn't make the Brunell bashing any easier to take...

As for those that think Brunell is enemy #1, they probably should get a life. But it does irk me when they put their long-distance TV evaluation ahead of Coach Gibbs' professional evaluation. Whatever...
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:05 AM   #4
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I take it you haven't been around here very long.

Brunell is public enemy #1 to a lot of people.
I used to be a huge Brunell hater...No longer....Seems to me since he had the shoulder surgery in the off-season his arm looks much stronger... I hope he can regain some of his former Jacksonville swanger...
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Old 09-06-2007, 09:53 AM   #5
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I used to be a huge Brunell hater...No longer....Seems to me since he had the shoulder surgery in the off-season his arm looks much stronger... I hope he can regain some of his former Jacksonville swanger...
I was never a Brunell hater. I do think he is trying to hard to show how strong his arm is after surgery this offseason. I also think it was affecting his accuracy and that is why he is # 3
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Old 09-06-2007, 10:11 AM   #6
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I was never a Brunell hater. I do think he is trying to hard to show how strong his arm is after surgery this offseason. I also think it was affecting his accuracy and that is why he is # 3

You're so right on Brunell trying to gun the ball.

For the record, I don't think people here hate Brunell just for the sake of being negative or hating. I think the moment someone says anything negative about Mark Brunell, people are quick to say you're hating for no reason.
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Old 09-06-2007, 09:47 AM   #7
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I take it you haven't been around here very long.

Brunell is public enemy #1 to a lot of people.
Yep, it began when he took over for Patrick Ramsey, the boy-crush of many of our members.
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Old 09-06-2007, 11:48 AM   #8
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I take it you haven't been around here very long.

Brunell is public enemy #1 to a lot of people.

And #2.
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Old 09-05-2007, 05:32 PM   #9
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Re: RI: Collins is the no. 2

I called this back in April ...but then I also had Vernon Fox starting week one
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Old 09-05-2007, 05:34 PM   #10
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The funny thing is that the people that are bashing MB were he same people who said to dump MB and keep Palmer. Well thats before he played last Thursday night.
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:44 PM   #11
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if our defense plays the way we think it can, and Collins comes in, he will be good enough to manage the game. so our defense can win it
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:44 PM   #12
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Re: RI: Collins is the no. 2

Boy, what a difference a year makes? This time last year we were all ready to throw Collins under the bus (including me) Granted he played a little better this preseason, mainly due to the fact he had the opportunity to play with the first team, something he didn't do last year.

I have the utmost respect for Brunell's professionalism.
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:45 PM   #13
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Re: RI: Collins is the no. 2

Congratulations to Todd Collins first and foremost.

Don't think this move is entirely based on preseason performance. Gibbs is too smart, and knows too much about both of these guys to allow 4 preseason games to completely change his opinion of his guys.

It seems like there is something that makes Gibbs think that Brunell is incapable of posting numbers like he did last year if hes called on. While theres absolutely no guarentee we can get that sort of production from TC (if called on), I'm open to the idea that he (Collins) can emulate 2006 Brunell better than 2007 Brunell could in a relief appearence.

Ideally, Campbell takes every snap this season, but if he doesn't, I see both of these guys getting time back there.
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:57 PM   #14
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Re: RI: Collins is the no. 2

I guess we skins fans need a QB controversy, or we don't know what to do with ourselves!

Collins played better, but clearly Gibbs likes having MB around. We do pay a lot for him as a #3, but that's the contract we signed. Not sure that moving him for a conditional 6th is a better move right now. Maybe his value will go up during the season as QBs go down--we'll see. Of course, if Collins has to play and he sucks, we'll all be screaming for our favorite guy, Mark Brunnell.

Whatever.
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Old 09-05-2007, 07:04 PM   #15
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I doubt very seriously that Gibbs would have made the same decision had Collins play been simular to what we saw last preseason. I'm just convinced he finally saw the light.
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