WR McCardell considering signing with Redskins, Texans

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 06-20-2007, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What about long-term value? Adding Keenan to Thrash is just two cagey veterans at this point. But what's the upside of having them both? Mike Espy apparently had a pretty good minicamp and has potential to be a long term fix.

At what i ask mr. smack

SmootSmack · 06-20-2007, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

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At what i ask mr. smack

Is that another rhetorical question?

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 06-20-2007, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Is that another rhetorical question?

no ss i am serious what is he a long term fix at? I never ask rhetorical questions.

mike340 · 06-20-2007, 03:11 AM

Has Thrash lost so much speed? I read ran a 4.2 40 in college and remember he took the mantle of "fastest Redskin" off of #28's shoulders.

He has also been good coming back to the QB when he's under pressure and is usually very good at getting the yards for the first down.

He hasn't had that much playing time at wide receiver in the last few years and so it has been hard to judge his current capabilities. (Last year they couldn't because they had to play the "hot" free agents we had picked up.)

So before we ditch him I'd like to see what he can (still) do.

Luxorreb · 06-20-2007, 05:15 AM

I say the more competition the better. Gibbs knows that if you wanna win it now you grab quality veterans when possible. McCardell would be a great addition to our WR Corps. I really hope we sign him. Always thought he was severely underrated.

irish · 06-20-2007, 08:06 AM

Just what the skins need, an over-the-hill vet looking for a big payday. No thanks.

TheMalcolmConnection · 06-20-2007, 08:33 AM

I say no. Just more money to take away from Cooley's potential contract.

ArtMonkDrillz · 06-20-2007, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I say no. Just more money to take away from Cooley's potential contract.

Good point. I don't want to sign any FAs (with the exception of a valuable DE/DT) until Cooley gets a new contract.

BrudLee · 06-20-2007, 08:45 AM

At vets minimum, it's a question. At anything higher, it isn't.

Espy, while no sure thing to break out, is the only receiver with any likelihood to make the roster under 25. As much as I want to "win now", we can't jettison the future stability of the WR corps in order to improve ourselves at the #4 WR.

If McCardell could come in and play 80% of the snaps at #2, then he helps us next year in a manner that makes this palatable. But that also means that Randle-El and Lloyd are not on the field those times, which would be an abject failure.

firstdown · 06-20-2007, 08:55 AM

Talking about WR's. I read that Lloyd cam into camp in very good shape and gaining around 20 pounds of mussel and weight. Was this true and is there any word of how he is looking in the mini camps?

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 06-20-2007, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Talking about WR's. I read that Lloyd cam into camp in very good shape and gaining around 20 pounds of mussel and weight. Was this true and is there any word of how he is looking in the mini camps?

he did gain 20 pounds of muscle and they say he has gotten alot stronger but hasnt lost any speed.

TheMalcolmConnection · 06-20-2007, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Talking about WR's. I read that Lloyd cam into camp in very good shape and gaining around 20 pounds of mussel and weight. Was this true and is there any word of how he is looking in the mini camps?

I also heard he's been a joy to be around, which is a change.

freddyg12 · 06-20-2007, 09:01 AM

I like this idea. IMO, there is only 1 player that would be threatened by this; Loyd. He's the one w/a lot to prove.

I think a lot of us here are assuming that Espy can really make it in the nfl. I hope he does & its w/us, but he didn't make the roster last year & we still don't know if he has it. He could be another McCants or D. Thompson, guys that had their moments but turned out to be avg. nfl players if that.

Thrash on the other hand has had a great career as a #2, #3 wr, even as a #1 in Philly (not saying much given they had FredEx & Pinkston). He's a core Skins, spent his early years here & Gibbs loves him. He also outplayed Loyd last year & plays spec. teams well. Can't believe anyone can think we'll get rid of him.

diehardskin2982 · 06-20-2007, 09:04 AM

Taking into consideration Moss's injury history and the fact that he's rehabing his hammy now is reason to bring in a safety vet to push the others WR to excel. I like the move, he's like having Patten but has more talent.

firstdown · 06-20-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

Taking into consideration Moss's injury history and the fact that he's rehabing his hammy now is reason to bring in a safety vet to push the others WR to excel. I like the move, he's like having Patten but has more talent.

Not sure what you mean about injury history this is his playing history.
2006 14
2005 16
2004 15
2003 16
2002 15
I left off his rokie year.

06-20-2007, 05:15 AM	#5
Luxorreb ^21^ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Virginia Age: 53 Posts: 1,630	Re: WR McCardell considering return to NFL with Redskins, Texans I say the more competition the better. Gibbs knows that if you wanna win it now you grab quality veterans when possible. McCardell would be a great addition to our WR Corps. I really hope we sign him. Always thought he was severely underrated. __________________ ^21^

06-20-2007, 08:06 AM	#6
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: WR McCardell considering return to NFL with Redskins, Texans Just what the skins need, an over-the-hill vet looking for a big payday. No thanks.

06-20-2007, 08:33 AM	#7
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: WR McCardell considering return to NFL with Redskins, Texans I say no. Just more money to take away from Cooley's potential contract. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

06-20-2007, 08:45 AM	#9
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Re: WR McCardell considering return to NFL with Redskins, Texans At vets minimum, it's a question. At anything higher, it isn't. Espy, while no sure thing to break out, is the only receiver with any likelihood to make the roster under 25. As much as I want to "win now", we can't jettison the future stability of the WR corps in order to improve ourselves at the #4 WR. If McCardell could come in and play 80% of the snaps at #2, then he helps us next year in a manner that makes this palatable. But that also means that Randle-El and Lloyd are not on the field those times, which would be an abject failure. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

06-20-2007, 08:55 AM	#10
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 61 Posts: 15,817	Re: WR McCardell considering return to NFL with Redskins, Texans Talking about WR's. I read that Lloyd cam into camp in very good shape and gaining around 20 pounds of mussel and weight. Was this true and is there any word of how he is looking in the mini camps?

06-20-2007, 03:11 AM	#4
mike340 Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 68 Posts: 322	Re: WR McCardell considering return to NFL with Redskins, Texans Has Thrash lost so much speed? I read ran a 4.2 40 in college and remember he took the mantle of "fastest Redskin" off of #28's shoulders. He has also been good coming back to the QB when he's under pressure and is usually very good at getting the yards for the first down. He hasn't had that much playing time at wide receiver in the last few years and so it has been hard to judge his current capabilities. (Last year they couldn't because they had to play the "hot" free agents we had picked up.) So before we ditch him I'd like to see what he can (still) do.

06-20-2007, 09:01 AM	#13
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: WR McCardell considering return to NFL with Redskins, Texans I like this idea. IMO, there is only 1 player that would be threatened by this; Loyd. He's the one w/a lot to prove. I think a lot of us here are assuming that Espy can really make it in the nfl. I hope he does & its w/us, but he didn't make the roster last year & we still don't know if he has it. He could be another McCants or D. Thompson, guys that had their moments but turned out to be avg. nfl players if that. Thrash on the other hand has had a great career as a #2, #3 wr, even as a #1 in Philly (not saying much given they had FredEx & Pinkston). He's a core Skins, spent his early years here & Gibbs loves him. He also outplayed Loyd last year & plays spec. teams well. Can't believe anyone can think we'll get rid of him.

06-20-2007, 09:04 AM	#14
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: WR McCardell considering return to NFL with Redskins, Texans Taking into consideration Moss's injury history and the fact that he's rehabing his hammy now is reason to bring in a safety vet to push the others WR to excel. I like the move, he's like having Patten but has more talent. __________________ That got ugly fast

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