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[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

LOL...you guys crack me up.
Its been widely reported that Al Qaeda was responsible for this.
Not the civilian mob that was on the scene.
We've been drooping drone poop on them for a long time and will continue to do so.

"They go down too" .....lol

You understand that there appear to be (at best case) terrorist sympathizers in Libya's security forces that gave away the position of our Ambassador.

Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens - CBS News

You are extremely naive if you don't think there's a strong chance there are (again at best case) factions within the Libyan and Egyptian gov't that support these attacks. If we identify the terrorist groups within Libya/Egypt and where to attack....and the Libyan and/or Egyptian gov'ts won't allow us clearance or wind up notifying the terrorists of our plans....then absolutely we strike at their military infrastructure and claim a "stray missle" or something to that effect.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

You understand that there appear to be (at best case) terrorist sympathizers in Libya's security forces that gave away the position of our Ambassador.

Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens - CBS News

You are extremely naive if you don't think there's a strong chance there are (again at best case) factions within the Libyan and Egyptian gov't that support these attacks. If we identify the terrorist groups within Libya/Egypt and where to attack....and the Libyan and/or Egyptian gov'ts won't allow us clearance or wind up notifying the terrorists of our plans....then absolutely we strike at their military infrastructure and claim a "stray missle" or something to that effect.

LOL.....he was in the consulate building. Whats to give away? Every Abdul in the town knows where that is.

And your stray missile comment is amusing.
Where does this stray missile come from?
One of our many training ranges in Egypt?

And regarding your faction comment regarding who supports these attacks, I'd be of the opinion that any swinging dick that reads a Koran fits that description.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

LOL.....he was in the consulate building. Whats to give away? Every Abdul in the town knows where that is.

And your stray missile comment is amusing.
Where does this stray missile come from?
One of our many training ranges in Egypt?

And regarding your faction comment regarding who supports these attacks, I'd be of the opinion that any swinging dick that reads a Koran fits that description.

Read the link. From the link:

He said Stevens, 52, and other officials were moved to a second building - deemed safer - after the initial wave of protests at the consulate compound. According to al-Sharef, members of the Libyan security team seem to have indicated to the protesters the building to which the American officials had been relocated, and that building then came under attack.

This is a very fluid situation, an updated link:
Defense.gov News Article: Official Details Benghazi Attack, Vows to Support Libya

Once we've determined who's responsible, missle strikes can be done from our destroyers enroute to the Libyan coast, submarine assets, or other Air Force assets in the region. Special Forces can prepare for an assault and be in region with 24-48 hours.

As far a factions supporting this, I'm specifically speaking about government (or elements within the gov't) support for these attacks by Libya/Egypt.

You've done a bunch of LOL'ing at others, what do you propose we do here?

[Alvin Walton]

Ok let me back up a minute here and say things a little clearer because I actually agree with the general feeling you guys have but I dont advocate willy nilly retailation if it puts more American soldiers at risk.

First of all I dont believe in any kind of higher power, so I dont believe anything these Muslim idiots do is justified. If they dont like our videos, feck them....its just a video about a mythical being AFAIC.

I'm distrustfull of the Arab nation as a whole.
I've heard some extremists say that we (the west/America) are/should be at war with the muslim religion. I lean about 80% towards that mind set.
However, even if we really were I dont see it ending in the next 500 years as these people will continue to procreate and want to be martyrs.
Sh1tty sitauation and I have no idea how to resolve.

When we invaded Iraq I was for it. Same goes for whatever you want to call the action in Afghanistan.....
However now I'm very tired and fed up with Americans in body bags.
My stance is no more boots on the ground to resolve things in the middle east.
Continue the fight....but let technology and drones do it and whatever else DARPA the CIA and the Skunkworks can come up with.

As for Libya....its a huge mess. Its a fractured country with a fledgeling govt. with different factions of military.
It could have been one of many "factions" in that area that ratted out and killed our state dept people. Regardless, its all about their religion so feck all of them.
Stay the feck out of Libya and let technology find and kill these arsewipes.

[drew54]

'This Does Not Represent Us': Moving Photos of Pro-American Rallies in Libya - Politics - The Atlantic Wire

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by drew54

'This Does Not Represent Us': Moving Photos of Pro-American Rallies in Libya - Politics - The Atlantic Wire

Nice to see but that's a small group saying they support us compared to hate we see. If you look at the photos its the same small group of people with pics from different angles.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Nice to see but that's a small group saying they support us compared to hate we see. If you look at the photos its the same small group of people with pics from different angles.

They in a war zone and are putting themselves in danger to sympathize with us and protest the killings and all you have to say is "form the pictures there aren't many of them." What an asinine thing to say.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

They in a war zone and are putting themselves in danger to sympathize with us and protest the killings and all you have to say is "form the pictures there aren't many of them." What an asinine thing to say.

You left off my entire post. I said it was nice to see but it was not very many people. It was oringinally posted like there was some hugh ground swell of support for the US. By you saying they were brave to do what they did is just confirming their hate for us. Which was my point.

[That Guy]

yes, the security forces tipped off the violent elements that used the crowd to hide in, and i'm pretty sure we're looking into dealing with as many of those criminal/murderous people as we can. no president loves drone death more than obama. if you can sniff the problem children out and stamp on them, great, but killing those that haven't done anything egregious is a great way to turn the entire country against you very quickly.

so you have to be really careful about shooting into crowds. generally you try to snipe the rpgs/leaders when they start pointing guns at you and that gets the message across really quickly. the thing you don't want to go is encourage anyone who's standing around to go home, get their guns, and come back looking for a fight.

[Chico23231]

Any chance we can get the filmaker and all financiers of the film on the first plane to Cairo? I cant stand when some one yells free speech and goes into hiding. You make something with the sole purpose of hate and too afraid to face the reaction? What a ****in pussy.

[firstdown]

I didn't see the guy hiding he was on the news doing an interview. Funny how this is deemed so bad but the attacks on religion seems fair game. So if all the Cristians start killing people everytime their religion is attacked we can then start calling that free speech hatred.

[firstdown]

I wonder if they used the weapons that Obama gave them to kill our own?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I wonder if they used the weapons that Obama gave them to kill our own?

[NC_Skins]

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I wonder if they used the weapons that Obama gave them to kill our own?

um, unless i'm mistaken we didn't give them weapons. we gave them training/uniforms/food/medical aid, but not guns. the dudes in the pics i saw had ak's, so unless you have a link or something, i think you're sensationalizing and making a pointless/stupid dig at obama.