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[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

If some are not convinced with Howell. Would you rather have Cousins, Wentz or Heinecken? None of them, rather have SH. He will prove it the more he plays.

If those are the 4 options, Cousins clears the other 3 by miles especially during his time here. I'm not throwing a parade for Howell just yet.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Cousins couldn't outplay Baker Mayfield today, even though he has the best WR in football; yeah he threw for 300 yds, but had a pick, two lost fumbles, and no TDs. I really wish fans of this team would stop pining over him.

Moving on from that, I had higher expectations of EBs playcalling, but he needs to adjust better and help Howell. I do think the AZ d-line is underrated though, but yeah, this o-line needs work.

Sam can't be throwing the ball 30 times. Run game needs to be better period. Also, I'm really getting sick of Gibson and his redzone fumbles. We probably would have gone up at least 10-6 if it wasn't for him early on.

lol.. I think the overall body of work speaks for itself.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Let’s clarify this. How did Cousins look his 1st year vs Howell? SH will be a much better QB than Cousins and it won’t take long.

In his first year starting or his first start vs the Browns in 2012? Either way he was better than Howell

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Cousins couldn't outplay Baker Mayfield today, even though he has the best WR in football; yeah he threw for 300 yds, but had a pick, two lost fumbles, and no TDs. I really wish fans of this team would stop pining over him.

Moving on from that, I had higher expectations of EBs playcalling, but he needs to adjust better and help Howell. I do think the AZ d-line is underrated though, but yeah, this o-line needs work.

Sam can't be throwing the ball 30 times. Run game needs to be better period. Also, I'm really getting sick of Gibson and his redzone fumbles. We probably would have gone up at least 10-6 if it wasn't for him early on.

So the guy who threw for 344 played worse than the guy who threw for 173?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

So the guy who threw for 344 played worse than the guy who threw for 173?

Actually, let me eat crow, because I obviously can't f*cking read stats. Kirk threw more than double the yards than Baker, score as many TDs as him, but had 1 INT and two lost fumbles.

[SFREDSKIN]

https://www.commanders.com/video/vic...e-for-the-city

[punch it in]

Why the fuck are we talking about Kirk Cousins. People just can’t quit him.

[sevier2]

Not that anybody ever questioned it but Sam Howell is tough.

Dude got hit a lot today but stayed poised and ran the offense… in the rain.

He obviously has a ways to go but I like that he’s tough and at least trying to allow a play to develop when he’s getting hit. Not just scrambling in a panic.

If he can speed up his internal clock I think he could be pretty good.

[Meks]

God I hate to indulge this but... kirk also had Kyle during those times.. last time I checked kyle>eb until otherwise. Sam will be fine. Im glad we won. It was ugly, I was sure they were blowing it but they didn't. A TON to improve upon but that's why they play the game. I do not expect to beat Denver next week even as poor as they looked today. Albeit the road and the combo of tweedle dee & tweedle dumb vs. Sean Payton weighs heavy in that feeling and less to do with our roster.... nonetheless. I hope I'm wrong.

[EdmundDorf]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Yes, we can pay Sweat and Young. Have you seen the number of players the 49ers are paying? Next year you cut, Leno, Thomas, Samuel, Fuller (that's a chunk of change).

Well Fuller and Samuel are free agents next year, so no savings to be had. They have huge amounts of cap next year so no need to cut players for cap space, cut them based on performance not cap hit. Drafting OL and TE 1st and 2nd respectively would seem to be the best scenario. But if they don't improve this year there will be a clearout and every position is up for grabs. If Ron is still here he will pick a DL and a project LB.

[EdmundDorf]

At least the defence started fast this year, hopefully keeps us in every game assuming they can keep it up

[That Guy]

howell's got an arm, but had an up and down game (not unexpected). OL was somehow worse than I thought they'd be (and I didn't have a high opinion to begin with). D looked fine.

They can clean it up some (ie, play better, move howell around a bit, run more), but OL will continue to be a problem we won't be able to fix this season, which sucks.

Still, it's a win.

edit: saying the D looked fine is disingenuous, DL looked great (even if it was against a scrub QB). It's good to know that money hasn't been wasted.

[mooby]

I can't help but worry about Howell - I thought that cheap shot might've rung his bell a bit because there were some moments that made him look bad afterwards. Of course he did enough to win too which is a good sign, but I don't trust the NFL when they say players don't have concussions - see the Tua saga from the last couple years.

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by sevier2

Not that anybody ever questioned it but Sam Howell is tough.

Dude got hit a lot today but stayed poised and ran the offense… in the rain.

He obviously has a ways to go but I like that he’s tough and at least trying to allow a play to develop when he’s getting hit. Not just scrambling in a panic.

If he can speed up his internal clock I think he could be pretty good.

Agree about the toughness. He'll have the be with this oline. Just needs to get rid of the ball quicker will help a ton. Really hope Bienemy quickly incorporates quick developing passing plays will help a ton. Also, I do feel there was a decent amount of pressure on Howell: new ownership, 1st game of year, weakest team in league, and Sonny & a lot of former greats in attendance. Eager to see how he plays v. Denver.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Why the fuck are we talking about Kirk Cousins. People just can’t quit him.

He's a free agent next year. You never know.. lol.