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Re: North Korea: Threat or Blackmailer?
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China is interested in maintaining a good relationship with the US. They like us for trade purposes, they don't want to get into a gigantic war with us (who does), and they hold a ton of our bonds. If they get into a war with us, where they defend the North Korean aggressors, it gives us all the reason in the world to wipe that debt right off the books. Our nation's credit rating wouldn't even take a hit because of the circumstances and the moral high ground. North Korea talks a big game but ultimately they will do what's in their own best interests. They don't feel real secure with Japan and its Navy just to the East, the American-defended South Koreans just to the South, and the growing American partnership with China. Kim Jong Il is paranoid, and puts on shows of force with his occasional missile launches. But in the end I think he's more rational than people give him credit for. He's an evil bastard for sure, but he still knows what's in his own best interests. If he invades S Korea he has to commit his forces to the invasion, the US and Japan will bomb him from across the water, and China will be forced to sit and watch. The real threat is that he'd supply terrorists with nuclear weaponry in an attempt to attack our homeland covertly.
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Re: North Korea: Threat or Blackmailer?
The key to North Korea is China and its always been. Believe me, we are not doing a thing unless we get their permission...that goes for any Repubs or Dems in power. We been trying to ride out Kim's health, but the dude seems to have Castro-like staying power to avoid purgatory. I think no one will do a thing and this will just continue like it always has...N.Korea loves the attention, but they know they are in for an ass kicking from China and Us if they try to denonate any bomb...
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Re: North Korea: Threat or Blackmailer?
Some interesting side bars about Kim, sr.
- he is a huge hollywood fan. he has a private movie theater where he will watch hollywood movies. - back in the 50's or 60s, when tension btw NK and the US was pretty high, the US president at the time invited him to visit america. he came and was more interested in partying with celebrities. he ened up here for over a month iirc, traveling around the country. - hes a huge elvis fan freak i forgot the rest. i read an article from the washingotn post about him a year ago where it talked aobut his tour of the US, etc. real interesting article. like credskins said, it seems NK is reaching the end of their ability to survive as an isolated cmmunist republic. i read that now, even ranking officials in the military are going hungry. will NK go the route of the former soviet union or will they go out in blaze of glory?
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Re: North Korea: Threat or Blackmailer?
South Korea nor North Korea want to destroy their country. I predict unification sooner than later. They are not stupid. Fighting over what?
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Re: North Korea: Threat or Blackmailer?
It is bluster for the most part. Yeah, the N Korean Army is huge, etc, but the S Koreans have more missiles, more advanced fighters(and more of them), and more importantly more allies than the North does. The North has the bomb now? So what!! What happens if the beloved dictator drops a nuke on Seoul or even worse US troops there? We would nuke the entire nation and put them half starved N Korean troops out of their misery real quick. I mean face it, most of the N Korean conventional arsenal is Soviet handme downs, which in the face of fifth generation US technology is really uselsss, ala the supposedly vaunted Iraqi armed forces of 1990-91. A war with the North would be dumb, as although we would win, the casualties among the Koreans on both sides of the 38th parallel would be initially horrendous if the North did use the bomb or just executed a massive invasion of the South if it felt its back against the wall.
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Re: North Korea: Threat or Blackmailer?
Had to revive this again. First any time a Trample thread can be revived, that's a good thing, and second:
One day they are going to say/do something, and it's not going to end well for them: Furious over sanctions, NKorea vows to nuke US - Yahoo! News Quote:
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Re: North Korea: Threat or Blackmailer?
Yes they certainly have been getting riled up lately.
Sanctions and our war games have really annoyed them. Seems like they are more mad at us then actually South Korea. I think they will have to actually invade or do a lot of shooting towards the south for us to really do anything.
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In the thread title I'd vote: Other. It's a tragedy. Last edited by HailGreen28; 03-07-2013 at 06:23 PM. |
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Re: North Korea: Threat or Blackmailer?
I guess the question is, could they manage to lob a nuke at Japan. I doubt they send one to SK, to close, and if they fired one off at us, they have to know it would be an act in futility, but if they lobbed it at Japan, they(being crazy) may think it strengthens their negotiation position.
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Except this time we'll get a lot more help. If they nuked us it would go even worse for them as we would most likely occupy them for the next 80 years while reuniting with the south. I dont think they are so dumb to think that an action like that will lift their sanctions.
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Re: North Korea: Threat or Blackmailer?
nobody rattles the saber these days like DPRK. China would never let them fire a nuclear missle at us...all talk. My big problem with them is trading nuclear arms with terrorists groups.
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Re: North Korea: Threat or Blackmailer?
[QUOTE=Chico23231;996775]nobody rattles the saber these days like DPRK. China would never let them fire a nuclear missle at us...all talk. My big problem with them is trading nuclear arms with terrorists groups.[/QUOTE]
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Re: North Korea: Threat or Blackmailer?
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Take for instance, Pakistan. They are known supporters of terrorists, and hold nuclear weapons. Not a single solitary nuclear device or materials has ever been passed on. They know their existence would end if it did.
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Re: North Korea: Threat or Blackmailer?
North Korea says 'prepare for war' following fresh UN sanctions - Telegraph
I love North Korean propaganda videos. Hilarious. NK is thumping its chest wanting attention like a spoiled brat. It most likely wants more "funding" from us to feed their starving people, even though they'd rather use that money for weaponry. I would dare those assholes to do something. China is fed up with them, as is the rest of the world. WE SEE YOU, NOW SIT THE **** DOWN AND SHUT UP. THANKS!
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Re: North Korea: Threat or Blackmailer?
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I think China would go absolutely ape-shit, they wouldnt want a US backed country up against their border. NK would cease to exist after they launch a nuclear missle. It would be WW3, Europe, US, SK, Aust, Japan, would probably engage fairly quickly. China's hands would be tied, no way could they defend a pre emptive launch of a nuclear weapon.
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