The Law - Oddities and Facts

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

lol ... "hurtful"? Disappointing RR, I would expect such a response from G1, but I thought you were made of sterner stuff. Tell you what ... let's make a drum circle, sing some kumbaya and hug it out.

I promise I won't tell the cops.

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[Giantone]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

lol ...Tell you what ... let's make a drum circle, sing some kumbaya and hug it out.

I promise I won't tell the cops.

Are you saying RR is gay ???

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Are you saying RR is gay ???

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Paranoid? They have a officer on that video acknowledging you should NEVER talk to *gasp* a officer.

Your inability to grasp reality is mind boggling, and your trust in our government is how people are enslaved. I suggest more critical thinking. KK THANX.

It is scary. What's more scary is that about half our voting nation is just as naive.


I've always had respect for cops. In fact, I have several active and retired police in my family.

However, in the past couple of years there has been a troubling change in law enforcement and their treatment of civilians. They're getting military-grade equipment from the Federal Government in towns that have no real reason to possess such things for no other apparent reason than suppressing and controlling civilians. They're becoming more aggressive. They're not allowing due process and Constitutional rights. They're not allowing you to record them. I have heard retired cops saying they're concerned and disturbed by what they're seeing the police being used for.

I am very convinced it is related to this speech:



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You absolutely should not divulge anything to a police officer that he's not asking for and even then, if you have not done anything, know your rights and don't assume they don't have something (or think something) that would incriminate you. Don't submit to a search without a warrant.

On my local news site just today:

Single mother arrested, thrown in jail for the night, after cop falsely accused her of felony during traffic stop

[RedskinRat]

Well played, MD.

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[JoeRedskin]

^^ rofl

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Are you saying RR is gay ???

Ummm... no. I was saying that his use of the term "hurtful" struck me as politically correct sheeple speak and, thus, similar to you.

Now ... if being similar to you would also make him gay, then thank you for your brave public confirmation of what we have all suspected.

[RedskinRat]

I'm surprised it took so long for that to get thrown out there. Sadly, I'm not physically attractive enough to make their very tough requirements. At least on the Left Coast. I'm barely even permitted to drive through WeHo before dark.

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[CRedskinsRule]

How Lending A Friend Your Car, Then Going to Bed Can Land You a Life Prison Sentence | Alternet

The author's best point is that the parents who were selling the drugs out of their house should be held responsible at some point also.

And again, likely none of this happens if marijuana was not illegal.

Bottomline for me, the US system is outta whack, but I don't see much of a chance to get it back on track.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

How Lending A Friend Your Car, Then Going to Bed Can Land You a Life Prison Sentence | Alternet

The author's best point is that the parents who were selling the drugs out of their house should be held responsible at some point also.

And again, likely none of this happens if marijuana was not illegal.

Bottomline for me, the US system is outta whack, but I don't see much of a chance to get it back on track.

the felony murder rule is there for a good purpose - to deter people from committing violent felonies and holding them accountable for any consequence that results.

if a couple guys decide to rob a store and the clerk dies of a heart attack - you should be charged with felony murder.

if a couple of guys decide to rob a store and the clerk calls his wife afterwards and she dies of a heart attack - you should be charged with felony murder.

the only sticking point and critical decision that had to be made (from reading that brief and one sided article) is whether he knew they intended to rob the girl or should have known (they used his car to rob in the past, he should have known that they would use his car to rob again).

if the guy didnt know, then the DA for that county failed miserably in applying his or her discretion

[NC_Skins]

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[Giantone]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Most people coming in reading the replies of Giantone.

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[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Giantone

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I assure you, their failure is 100% on them. I'm not the one sleeping on the job, falsifying timesheets, drinking at work, or using state resources for private use.

Why do you always defend the criminal and blame the victim? That's exactly what you do.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

How Lending A Friend Your Car, Then Going to Bed Can Land You a Life Prison Sentence | Alternet

The author's best point is that the parents who were selling the drugs out of their house should be held responsible at some point also.

And again, likely none of this happens if marijuana was not illegal.

Bottomline for me, the US system is outta whack, but I don't see much of a chance to get it back on track.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/04/us...ewanted=2&_r=0

Mr. Holle had no criminal record. He had lent his car to Mr. Allen, a housemate, countless times before.

“All he did was go say, ‘Use the car,’ ” Mr. Allen said of Mr. Holle in a pretrial deposition. “I mean, nobody really knew that girl was going to get killed. It was not in the plans to go kill somebody, you know.”

But Mr. Holle did testify that he had been told it might be necessary to “knock out” Jessica Snyder. Mr. Holle is 25 now, a tall, lean and lively man with a rueful sense of humor, alert brown eyes and an unusually deep voice. In a spare office at the prison here, he said that he had not taken the talk of a burglary seriously.

“I honestly thought they were going to get food,” he said of the men who used his car, all of whom had attended the nightlong party at Mr. Holle’s house, as had Jessica Snyder.

So, he's at a party with his friends and the murder victim. She likely says something along the lines of 'Mom has safe filled with pot." She leaves, friends say "Hey, let's grab the pot and get some munchies. We probably have to knock out the victim so she doesn't recognize us. Damn, we need a car, can we borrow yours dude?". Guy in jail says "Sure, just bring me back some Doritios." Friends stop to steal the pot and bash victim's head in.

So, did he just think they were joking? or not? Another one of those "hard to judge because I wasn't there and didn't see him, weigh his credibility against others, etc. etc. If he really knew they were plotting to steal the pot and it would be likely result in an assault, well, bad on him. If not, then it shouldn't be a felony murder.

[RedskinRat]

Prisons are becoming 'for profit', how is that good? It's all part of the problem.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Prisons are becoming 'for profit', how is that good? It's all part of the problem.