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Old 04-24-2021, 01:14 PM   #31
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https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden...e6c33ff2220781

Biden recognizes atrocities against Armenians as genocide

This is long overdue and good move here by the administration
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Old 04-24-2021, 01:27 PM   #32
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Biden recognizes atrocities against Armenians as genocide

This is long overdue and good move here by the administration
Glad we can all agree on that.

Shout out to SOAD for their 20+ year campaign to raise awareness to this. I didn't even know about it until I listened to SOAD.
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Old 04-24-2021, 07:09 PM   #33
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/histo...p8hk7KUgw_e2Q0

Good read on the Armenian genocide. Sounds like they were scapegoated for the Ottoman Empire's failures in WW1.
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Old 04-25-2021, 08:07 AM   #34
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Putting this here because I guess it is political but in reality just found the quote funny: https://apple.news/AKgBMGm5fQVGyKyAuKT8vwA
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Old 04-25-2021, 09:05 AM   #35
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Putting this here because I guess it is political but in reality just found the quote funny: https://apple.news/AKgBMGm5fQVGyKyAuKT8vwA
LOL, thanks that's great!
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Old 04-25-2021, 11:14 AM   #36
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It was mentioned some but unless we want to be in the business of major standoffs until someone blinks, which has no real upside, sending troops into Ukraine is not in our strategic best interests. Efforts need to be clandestine and aimed at politically and economically destabilizing China and Russia. Some of the goofy left field Info Wars esque bullshit some of you guys like to read is intentionally promulgated online by Russian and Chinese bots with the intention of sowing discord so that shit like the capital insurrection happens on a more frequent and larger scale. We need to be doing that kind of stuff to them with greater effectiveness.

Economic destabilization is just as important. As oil prices have risen again, Russia benefits greatly. Anything we can do to keep oil prices down kills them. Flood the market, reduce demand through greener technology, it all undermines Russia’s economy, which is 50% oil.
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It was mentioned some but unless we want to be in the business of major standoffs until someone blinks, which has no real upside, sending troops into Ukraine is not in our strategic best interests. Efforts need to be clandestine and aimed at politically and economically destabilizing China and Russia. Some of the goofy left field Info Wars esque bullshit some of you guys like to read is intentionally promulgated online by Russian and Chinese bots with the intention of sowing discord so that shit like the capital insurrection happens on a more frequent and larger scale. We need to be doing that kind of stuff to them with greater effectiveness.

Economic destabilization is just as important. As oil prices have risen again, Russia benefits greatly. Anything we can do to keep oil prices down kills them. Flood the market, reduce demand through greener technology, it all undermines Russia’s economy, which is 50% oil.
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I agree with every word of this. Especially the part in bold.

But until we became fully energy independent (which we have all of the ability in the world to do) and can bring back the manufacturing of basic goods and necessities this will be hard to do, especially as it relates to China. Due to cheap manufacturing, they have us by the short hairs.
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Old 04-25-2021, 04:42 PM   #38
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Re: Fresh Start Political Thread

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/larry...b0ccb91c24f815

Top Trump economic advisor Larry Kudlow says the Green New Deal is gonna make us drink plant-based beer, as opposed to our delicious meat-based beers we enjoy today.

Other than that one gaffe he does a great job of selling fear. No doubt the base will eat that shit up.
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Old 04-25-2021, 05:09 PM   #39
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Top Trump economic advisor Larry Kudlow says the Green New Deal is gonna make us drink plant-based beer, as opposed to our delicious meat-based beers we enjoy today.

Other than that one gaffe he does a great job of selling fear. No doubt the base will eat that shit up.
Cow Blood IPA is my favorite beer.
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Old 04-27-2021, 12:15 PM   #40
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JFC what an idiot

Rick Santorum says 'there isn't much Native American culture in American culture'

Santorum, 62, a Republican from Pennsylvania who served in the Senate from 1995 to 2007 and is now a CNN commentator, said there was "nothing here" before European settlers arrived.

"We came here and created a blank slate," Santorum said. "We birthed a nation from nothing. I mean, there was nothing here. I mean, yes we have Native Americans, but candidly there isn't much Native American culture in American culture."
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Just got a text from Marjorie Taylor Greene asking for 15 bucks to get rid of Maxine Waters.

I'll pitch in 30 if you both leave lol.
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JFC what an idiot

Rick Santorum says 'there isn't much Native American culture in American culture'

Santorum, 62, a Republican from Pennsylvania who served in the Senate from 1995 to 2007 and is now a CNN commentator, said there was "nothing here" before European settlers arrived.

"We came here and created a blank slate," Santorum said. "We birthed a nation from nothing. I mean, there was nothing here. I mean, yes we have Native Americans, but candidly there isn't much Native American culture in American culture."
This would set Native American-regular American relations back quite a bit if there was any room for them to get any worse. As it is we basically pretend like they don't exist.
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Old 04-28-2021, 03:18 AM   #43
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JFC what an idiot

Rick Santorum says 'there isn't much Native American culture in American culture'

Santorum, 62, a Republican from Pennsylvania who served in the Senate from 1995 to 2007 and is now a CNN commentator, said there was "nothing here" before European settlers arrived.

"We came here and created a blank slate," Santorum said. "We birthed a nation from nothing. I mean, there was nothing here. I mean, yes we have Native Americans, but candidly there isn't much Native American culture in American culture."
I like Rick Santorum.

But I don't understand why he made this comment. It's not necessarily racist, he didn't say Native Americans deserved to die. But at best, it's just fucking stupid.

I would say ignorant, but he's 62 and well aware of our country's history. So this comment isn't out of not knowing.

What would make anyone say something like that? You can love our country, while admitting our flaws, and honestly discussing our history. Not mutually exclusive.

Note - You can like people and not agree with all of their opinions. Also not mutually exclusive. Face to face, this is easier to know it's true. Little trickier online, because voice inflection and context are extremely important.
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Top Trump economic advisor Larry Kudlow says the Green New Deal is gonna make us drink plant-based beer, as opposed to our delicious meat-based beers we enjoy today.

Other than that one gaffe he does a great job of selling fear. No doubt the base will eat that shit up.
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