Expose on the Tea Party Architects

[MonkFan4Life]

Originally Posted by GMScud

It will be interesting to see how this plays out:

Beck-Palin Rally in Washington Drawing Supporters of `Babies, Guns, Jesus' - Bloomberg

I know there's a nice amount of people here for the rally already. I met two nice folks from Michigan this morning. I think they were a little apprehensive when I asked them if they needed help, ended up walking them to the Kennedy Center on my way to work this morning so they wouldn't get lost. I had some extra time since I got down here early but whil eon my way to another one of the State annexes I passed The Mall and it was packed down there.

[Texanskin]

it is amazing how people who HAVE a job...say that people who DONT have a job are lazy and gaming the system. Please let someone who DOESNT have a job speak up. What have the dems and Obama done:

1.Extended unemployment (which my wife needed after being laid off twice in 2 years)
2.Healthcare (my brother found out he had cancer days before he graduated from TCU and didnt have health insurance)
3. Credit card reform (companies wont jack up your fees without telling you in advance)
4. Tax breaks for the middle class (hey tea party....TAX BREAKS)
5. Increased pell grants for college students

If you have lived a "perfect" life then you wouldnt understand this....so you would rather criticize instead of provide SOLUTIONS. I get it....you want your country back....to the way it was when bush put us in this freaking hole!!!!! or .....you want your country back from a black president huh???

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Texanskin

it is amazing how people who HAVE a job...say that people who DONT have a job are lazy and gaming the system. Please let someone who DOESNT have a job speak up. What have the dems and Obama done:

1.Extended unemployment (which my wife needed after being laid off twice in 2 years)
2.Healthcare (my brother found out he had cancer days before he graduated from TCU and didnt have health insurance)
3. Credit card reform (companies wont jack up your fees without telling you in advance)
4. Tax breaks for the middle class (hey tea party....TAX BREAKS)
5. Increased pell grants for college students

If you have lived a "perfect" life then you wouldnt understand this....so you would rather criticize instead of provide SOLUTIONS. I get it....you want your country back....to the way it was when bush put us in this freaking hole!!!!! or .....you want your country back from a black president huh???

Don't play that stupid race card here its does not work. You made some good points but then you waisted them by playing that old worn out race card.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Don't play that stupid race card here its does not work. You made some good points but then you waisted them by playing that old worn out race card.

You play the lazy card well, it's only fair he be able to play his card.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

You play the lazy card well, it's only fair he be able to play his card.

I have called people here lazy?

[saden1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I have called people here lazy?

I wasn't aware he called you racist.

[Chico23231]

The backbone of the Tea Party is over-55s and especially retirees -- some planned, some forced -- with the most valuable asset of all, time.

i think the above sums it up.

One thing tea party gets right are term limits...its time to get that changed asap

[over the mountain]

work harder, millions on welfare depend on you!

[CRedskinsRule]

One other part is that real financial riches come in three main ways: inheritance, hard work combined with sound financial discipline, or luck; and one could argue inheritance is a sub-category of luck. A lot of people work hard, but not all use sound financial discipline (i would include myself in this category.) Thus most people fail to achieve that goal of financial security, but rather than blame themselves, we all want to put the blame back on others, or look for the government to take care of us.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

One other part is that real financial riches come in three main ways: inheritance, hard work combined with sound financial discipline, or luck; and one could argue inheritance is a sub-category of luck. A lot of people work hard, but not all use sound financial discipline (i would include myself in this category.) Thus most people fail to achieve that goal of financial security, but rather than blame themselves, we all want to put the blame back on others, or look for the government to take care of us.

One word: Opportunity

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by saden1

One word: Opportunity

Ok, but that is a part of luck. How many people have had golden opportunities and blown it or missed it. Opportunity does not, in and of itself, guarantee real financial riches. In fact many a lottery winner have had a golden opportunity, only to see that frittered away due to lack of work ethic and financial discipline. How many athletes have been given the opportunity to escape to a new life, only to be dragged back down by either lack of work ethic or by poor money management. I make a decent pay but McD's and fast food living keeps me from realizing a life of "real financial riches". My kids worked over the summer and I tried to instill in them that which I know but do not have, and yet when they got that money for a new video game their first instinct was to go get it.

So Opportunity(luck) - financial discipline =(still) lack of long term wealth.

[MonkFan4Life]

I just love how The Tea Party feels that they have to take their country back. As if something was lost somewhere around the end of '08 and the beginning of '09. Maybe I just wasn't up on my game but I never heard of them until then. I know that EVERY single Tea Party group doesn't have the (as I see them) racist undertones but that's the battle cry that was and still is most used. I wish them the best in all of their future endeavors but if you don't like his politics then cool. But if it's the color of his skin then I mean shit, what are we all here for ?

[CRedskinsRule]

The take our country back motto, at least if it's true to my feelings which it may or may not be, is directed at both parties. The republicans betrayed many of their party in the late 90's and early 2000's when instead of limiting gov't they simply diverted it's resources to the rich. And the democrats have long given up on the meaning of limited government. If it were simply a 2008-9 thing, or Lord Obama thing, then they would just go back into the folds of the republicans. Taking the country back means taking it back from an ever growing, and relentless march of big government drums. Of course that won't, can't happen, so it's just a place to vent at this point.

[dmek25]

CRR i hear you. and a lot of what you say is true. but not everyone that is poor chooses to be. there are many circumstances that arise that keep people from reaching their potential. and that is one of the biggest differences in the parties. the GOP thinks that people are poor by choice. the Dem's look at the poor as just needing that little extra help

[MTK]

Beck and Palin, oh man what a pair. It's frightening there are people out there that take these two seriously.