Kirk Cousins 365 thread

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Kirk Cousins won’t sign new deal before application of franchise tag | ProFootballTalk

It may be true, but Florio is notoriously wrong, and this could simply be KC pushing his leverage to the hilt for a long term deal.

Or it could be the ongoing saga that is the skins fan's life.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

It may be true, but Florio is notoriously wrong, and this could simply be KC pushing his leverage to the hilt for a long term deal.

Or it could be the ongoing saga that is the skins fan's life.

That's most likely the case. It's possible he's using it as one more step to help him get out the door. But more likely he's doing this so that the tag value of $24M gets baked into actuality. When your starting point in a negotiation is $24M guaranteed over one year, it gives you more leverage than when you don't have $24M guaranteed over one year.

After signing the tag he'll be one step closer to a 3rd tag worth $34M, which puts insane amounts of leverage in his court.

I think he and his agent are conducting what is probably the perfect contract negotiation.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

That's most likely the case. It's possible he's using it as one more step to help him get out the door. But more likely he's doing this so that the tag value of $24M gets baked into actuality. When your starting point in a negotiation is $24M guaranteed over one year, it gives you more leverage than when you don't have $24M guaranteed over one year.

After signing the tag he'll be one step closer to a 3rd tag worth $34M, which puts insane amounts of leverage in his court.

I think he and his agent are conducting what is probably the perfect contract negotiation.

Sounds like the best ever situation to be in if you're an agent trying to get your client max dollars. Cousins is going to be rolling in the money one way or another. I keep trying to figure out what's going on with the negotiations, and the only thing I do know is that we will know, beyond a shadow of doubt by July 15th. Other than that, it's kind of fun to sit and speculate what's going to happen.

I'm thinking the team does want to sign him long term - that's probably their first option. But seeing as how Cousins' agent probably wants the team to sweat and wants to make sure that Cousins gets $24M guaranteed this year, he's going to force the tag before he entertains any offers. Now the kicker, IMO, will be which tag he gets. I think the non-exclusive would mean the team has some doubt that they would be willing to offer Cousins enough of what he wants, and they're getting ready to at least make sure they don't leave the table empty-handed. The exclusive probably means it's all a formality - they plan on giving Cousins the max of what he wants this year and it's all about just working out the rest of the deal for the next few years.

Best case scenario is that they already have a great deal worked out to where there would be no reason to wait until March 1st to tag and extend negotiations. That's what I hope happens, but probably the least likely at this point.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

That's most likely the case. It's possible he's using it as one more step to help him get out the door. But more likely he's doing this so that the tag value of $24M gets baked into actuality. When your starting point in a negotiation is $24M guaranteed over one year, it gives you more leverage than when you don't have $24M guaranteed over one year.



After signing the tag he'll be one step closer to a 3rd tag worth $34M, which puts insane amounts of leverage in his court.



I think he and his agent are conducting what is probably the perfect contract negotiation.

They're certainly playing it by the book. Can't blame them.

[Schneed10]

JLC thinks he'll sign the tag, and then sign an extension by July 15. He seems to think he wants to be a Redskin but is looking to drive max value from the process.

I trust JLC over Jason Reid.

Let's separate fact from fiction in QB market for Romo, Garoppolo and Cousins - CBSSports.com

[Schneed10]

Don't read anything into Cousins being in whatever city a Ted's Grill is located in.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Don't read anything into Cousins being in whatever city a Ted's Grill is located in.

Oh, come on, clearly if he's in Montana, he's looking at signing with a CFL team!!

edit: and does anyone else find it strange that a buffalo barbecue joint from Montana only has restaurants east of the Mississippi (I'm ignoring Colorado). IF ONLY we had a bbq expert on the Warpath to let us know how their food really is!!!

[Schneed10]

We already have far too many posts on where Ted's Grill is. 1 was too many.

[sdskinsfan2001]

I'd be more sad if we lost Garcon than if we lost Cousins. Not because of who is better or who is more important, he's just my favorite Redskins player and he has done everything asked of him. He deserves a nice contract from us. He's still playing well too. He's our Anquan Boldin.

I wish I could just ask Kirk...Do you want to be a Redskins but also want as much money as possible or are you trying to drive up your price so high you force their hand in letting you go because you don't really want to play here.

Either way it looks like he's getting franchised and this whole thing could drag all the way out to July 15th. Ugh!

[Schneed10]

Yeah we won't know until July 15. The $ value the Redskins offer will eventually get out. If we hear that they're topping out at $18M and Cousins gets away from us the next year because of it, then we know who we'll be angry at. Likewise, if we hear that the offers are coming in $22M or $23M per year, and Cousins turns it down and ultimately gets away because of it, then we know who we'll be angry at.

I'll be more pissed at the 'Skins if they lowball him again than I would if Cousins just flat wants out. But I'd be pissed about either. Real pissed.

[sdskinsfan2001]

2 mottos as Skins fans:

1. There's always next year; and
2. Never easy

This falls into the latter.

There are 4 options at this point and I'm fine with 3 of them and 100% against 1. I'm OK with the non exclusive tag and hoping some team signs him, signing him to a long term deal and keeping him, or signing and trading him. I do not want him playing out the year for us on the franchise tag.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

2 mottos as Skins fans:

1. There's always next year; and
2. Never easy

This falls into the latter.

There are 4 options at this point and I'm fine with 3 of them and 100% against 1. I'm OK with the non exclusive tag and hoping some team signs him, signing him to a long term deal and keeping him, or signing and trading him. I do not want him playing out the year for us on the franchise tag.

If that happens, there will be only two possible reasons:

1) the Redskins lowballed him again with unreasonably low contract offers
2) Cousins got a decent offer but turned it down because he flat doesn't want to be here

We'll know at that point. If July 15 passes without a deal, he's as good as gone.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

If that happens, there will be only two possible reasons:

1) the Redskins lowballed him again with unreasonably low contract offers
2) Cousins got a decent offer but turned it down because he flat doesn't want to be here

We'll know at that point. If July 15 passes without a deal, he's as good as gone.

I wish I could psyche my brain into forgetting about football until July 16th. I could read about who we drafted at that time and have this situation be settled.

In a simple world we meet in the middle for 5 years 115 million and move on to building the rest of the team. A man can dream.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

If that happens, there will be only two possible reasons:

1) the Redskins lowballed him again with unreasonably low contract offers
2) Cousins got a decent offer but turned it down because he flat doesn't want to be here

We'll know at that point. If July 15 passes without a deal, he's as good as gone.

Why we should trade him if that's the case. Better get what you can now, than walk after this year for nothing.

[Alvin Walton]

Gahhh.....I feel like I'm waiting to see if my wife will divorce me or not.