To 2021 and Beyond .... current politics

[mooby]

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[Giantone]

Originally Posted by mooby

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Maybe it's just me but damn she is good . Well informed and not one attack in her response !

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

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It’s a good response as she reads talking points...but it’s incorrect

First the president did support mlb removing the allstar game, he said it period. It’s false for her to say “it’s up to them”. The president said he would like to see the game moved out of Atlanta. That can’t be walked back.

Second she never mentioned the Jim Crow rhetoric. She knew it wouldn’t fly because it false period.

Finally the law addresses voter integrity period. Her premise of “based on lie” is incorrect as she states it’s purpose is to reduce people access to vote. her frame is based in a lie. Multiple polls show voters want voter id, want secure ballot box, want political operatives not to be able to line warm with drinks abd food on Election Day

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

It’s a good response as she reads talking points...but it’s incorrect

LOL,............

[punch it in]

Here is what the DHS thinks about Chicos harmless friends who are just playing dress up and having a party.

https://www.dhs.gov/ntas/advisory/na...anuary-27-2021

[SunnySide]

I thought the "Jim Crow" tag was being applied to the filibuster discussion. Not Georgia's new election laws. Although both, could be argued, deal with suppression of minorities. Filibuster back in the day to slow or stop civil rights changes, new voter restrictions today in Georgia. But the "Jim Crow" stuff from President Obama was in reference to the filibuster.

I strongly believe the filibuster should remain and am glad Manchin wont cross that line. I have not doubt once the Rs get control, they will do away with the filibuster claiming the Ds would do it anyway in the future .. like McConnell did with the pink slips, pushing through SC justice in final term and making SC justices require only 50 votes. Ya know .. things he strongly argues against when the Ds could have done that but didnt.

Funniest thing. Do something that lessens democracy, claim the other side would do it if they had the chance in the future and watch your sheep lap it up and somehow blame the other side for something you actually did.

Chico I think you got your word salad mixed up a bit here.

Maybe Im wrong.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

I thought the "Jim Crow" tag was being applied to the filibuster discussion. Not Georgia's new election laws. Although both, could be argued, deal with suppression of minorities. Filibuster back in the day to slow or stop civil rights changes, new voter restrictions today in Georgia. But the "Jim Crow" stuff from President Obama was in reference to the filibuster.

I strongly believe the filibuster should remain and am glad Manchin wont cross that line. I have not doubt once the Rs get control, they will do away with the filibuster claiming the Ds would do it anyway in the future .. like McConnell did with the pink slips, pushing through SC justice in final term and making SC justices require only 50 votes. Ya know .. things he strongly argues against when the Ds could have done that but didnt.

Funniest thing. Do something that lessens democracy, claim the other side would do it if they had the chance in the future and watch your sheep lap it up and somehow blame the other side for something you actually did.

Chico I think you got your word salad mixed up a bit here.

Maybe Im wrong.

Everything is racist Sunnyside...if you don’t see that frame with every issue then I can’t help you. The Atlanta shooting, multiple articles tried and failed to link to white supremacy...rise in Asian hate crime, again attempt to link evil whitey and failed as the crime/data clearly states who is responsible...voting laws, filibuster, etc.

It’s all a lie founded by liberals through identity politics used to divide this country. When you have zero evidence of laws, data, etc...you make it into a myth, a narrative to play upon people fears.

Here is Joe Biden lying about Jim Crow and the Georgia laws:

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...r-21st-century

Here is Joe Biden saying filibuster is Jim Crow

https://www.businessinsider.com/bide...w-relic-2021-3

Sunnyside, Jim Crow is everything now. Which is egregiously offensive to anyone who knows anything about Jim Crow laws created by the Democrats earlier last century.

[SunnySide]

Biden did attach Jim Crow to the GA election laws.
Thanks for pointing that out and citing it.
Apparently everything is Jim Crow.

The asain hate is real imo. Ive seen too many articles, some are just homeless psychos that would happen regardless of covid but there are just to many to incidents. Its not just white MAGAs, its POC from NYC and SF and in England etc.

I guess MAGAs are defensive bc trump made china/asians the target of blame and hate and anger but its not just MAGAs acting like assholes.

To deny there is an uptick in asain hate re covid ... seems disingenuous to me.

Have you gotten your hands on some Zombie Dust beer yet?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Biden did attach Jim Crow to the GA election laws.
Thanks for pointing that out and citing it.
Apparently everything is Jim Crow.

The asain hate is real imo. Ive seen too many articles, some are just homeless psychos that would happen regardless of covid but there are just to many to incidents. Its not just white MAGAs, its POC from NYC and SF and in England etc.

I guess MAGAs are defensive bc trump made china/asians the target of blame and hate and anger but its not just MAGAs acting like assholes.

To deny there is an uptick in asain hate re covid ... seems disingenuous to me.

Have you gotten your hands on some Zombie Dust beer yet?

Every act of hate crime is unjust

There is an uptick in Asian hate crime because of covid. There was an uptick in hate crimes against Muslim after 9/11. These upticks are not because of trump as the offenders are diverse around the country...it growing anger about the suffering around the country. Unfortunately we are flawed as humans

Not yet...I’m sticking to mostly local beers. As the season warm, I’ll start to drink more pales and pilsners

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Every act of hate crime is unjust

There is an uptick in Asian hate crime because of covid. There was an uptick in hate crimes against Muslim after 9/11. These upticks are not because of trump as the offenders are diverse around the country...it growing anger about the suffering around the country. Unfortunately we are flawed as humans

He campaigned on it, he made it ok to do and he justified it!

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Every act of hate crime is unjust

There is an uptick in Asian hate crime because of covid. There was an uptick in hate crimes against Muslim after 9/11. These upticks are not because of trump as the offenders are diverse around the country...it growing anger about the suffering around the country. Unfortunately we are flawed as humans

Not yet...I’m sticking to mostly local beers. As the season warm, I’ll start to drink more pales and pilsners

Would you say Trump's efforts to deflect blame onto China when he was in office helped his base make him partially responsible for the rise in anti-Asian American sentiment?

Just to be clear, I don't hold Trump responsible for any "dem" or minority who are acting out on their anti-AA bias now, but you don't think Trump deserves any partial blame for repeatedly pointing the finger while he stood at the world's largest podium?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

Would you say Trump's efforts to deflect blame onto China when he was in office helped his base make him partially responsible for the rise in anti-Asian American sentiment?



Just to be clear, I don't hold Trump responsible for any "dem" or minority who are acting out on their anti-AA bias now, but you don't think Trump deserves any partial blame for repeatedly pointing the finger while he stood at the world's largest podium?

The blame on China was not deflecting - covid started in China. And speaking truth about where covid started is not synonymous with anti asian hate. Those who hate have always and will always use incidents to fuel their hatred.

Now to your point Trump and the liberal media worked together (not intentionally) to fuel the sentiment. Very much the societal equivalent to the physics law of equal and opposite reaction, every Trump action (like early on prohibiting travel) was skewed and lambasted as asian hate or some other ludicrously extreme viewpoint and that created push back which spiraled with more push back etc

Trump is clearly to blame for never using the podium to bring it back into balance, but the media (all sides) are equally to blame for inserting energy into the equation.

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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The blame on China was not deflecting - covid started in China. And speaking truth about where covid started is not synonymous with anti asian hate. Those who hate have always and will always use incidents to fuel their hatred.

Now to your point Trump and the liberal media worked together (not intentionally) to fuel the sentiment. Very much the societal equivalent to the physics law of equal and opposite reaction, every Trump action (like early on prohibiting travel) was skewed and lambasted as asian hate or some other ludicrously extreme viewpoint and that created push back which spiraled with more push back etc

Trump is clearly to blame for never using the podium to bring it back into balance, but the media (all sides) are equally to blame for inserting energy into the equation.

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This ^

Also China started an immediate global campaign to blame the US and propagandize theories that covid started elsewhere

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/in...mic-2020-03-15

China hung posters in their country around western installations to beware of the US virus in the last year.

Trump constant reminder to fight that narrative of origin and for China to accept responsibility is will within our right and broader strategy against a regime committing genocide and smashing HK right to independence.

Also for people to lay blame at Trump and try to portray as a bunch of right wingers committing Asian hate crime and violence is a lie. We have seen the videos, we know where the violence occurs (urban environments) and we know from the crime stats of the offenders.

It’s like Jussie smollett claiming Chicago is maga country. 🧐

[sdskinsfan2001]

Ron DeSantis has firmly planted himself on top of the non-rino leaderboard for conservatives in 2024.

Gaetz must feel like an anchor right now to him though. Both from Florida.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Ron DeSantis has firmly planted himself on top of the non-rino leaderboard for conservatives in 2024.

Gaetz must feel like an anchor right now to him though. Both from Florida.

LOL, DeSantis will end up like Cuomo , he has killed off some people too.