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Old 03-10-2012, 08:33 AM   #1
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Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft

They way I see it is, nothing good comes easy, nothing good comes cheap. The Redskins obviously had to do something. We can talk about the team mortgaging the future for one guy all day. Well, what type of future do you think this team has without a franchise quarterback? Nothing special in my opinion. I would have been ecstatic with Peyton Manning/Ryan Tannehill. But, Peyton obviously did not want to come to Washington. And honestly, I don't think Mike Shanahan was in the position to go the Orton/Tannehill or Cousins route. In the end, you gotta put butts in seats and you gotta have an instant game changer. RGIII's that guy.

Thinking optimistically, Griffin comes in and turns this team into an exciting, deadly great team. Nobody will be talking about the bounty that the 'skins gave up.
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Old 03-10-2012, 08:18 AM   #2
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My ass is only slightly chapped that we gave up our second this year. It was almost like a first rounder due to our shitty record. I can't imagine that next year's second rounder wasn't good enough.
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Old 03-10-2012, 08:19 AM   #3
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Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft

The price is much higher than I thought it would be, the 2014 First was the kicker but you know what, if those are late in the first round which means that we are WINNING so I won't care at that point. We've sucked for so long that we seem to associate a first rounder with a top 10 selection. If those picks are in the bottom 10 of the draft I'll be ok with it.

The other benefit (we have plenty of time to debate RGIII) of making this trade now is clarity for the rest of the offseason. Our top question has been answered, we know who the QB will be, now we can shop in free agency without having to wonder who is going to be under center. We can focus on WR, OL, RB, S, CB with our $45 million in cap space.

I'm waking up on the sunny side of the bed this morning, we got our QB, we still have 7 picks in 2012, 7 picks in 2013 & 6 picks in 2014.
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The price is much higher than I thought it would be, the 2014 First was the kicker but you know what, if those are late in the first round which means that we are WINNING so I won't care at that point. We've sucked for so long that we seem to associate a first rounder with a top 10 selection. If those picks are in the bottom 10 of the draft I'll be ok with it.

The other benefit (we have plenty of time to debate RGIII) of making this trade now is clarity for the rest of the offseason. Our top question has been answered, we know who the QB will be, now we can shop in free agency without having to wonder who is going to be under center. We can focus on WR, OL, RB, S, CB with our $45 million in cap space.

I'm waking up on the sunny side of the bed this morning, we got our QB, we still have 7 picks in 2012, 7 picks in 2013 & 6 picks in 2014.
Exactly. I don't know who it was (EARTHQUAKE maybe?) who said, "Would you be willing to trade a couple Ryan Kerrigans for RGIII?"

The answer for me is a resounding YES.
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Old 03-10-2012, 02:03 PM   #5
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The price is much higher than I thought it would be, the 2014 First was the kicker but you know what, if those are late in the first round which means that we are WINNING so I won't care at that point. We've sucked for so long that we seem to associate a first rounder with a top 10 selection. If those picks are in the bottom 10 of the draft I'll be ok with it.

The other benefit (we have plenty of time to debate RGIII) of making this trade now is clarity for the rest of the offseason. Our top question has been answered, we know who the QB will be, now we can shop in free agency without having to wonder who is going to be under center. We can focus on WR, OL, RB, S, CB with our $45 million in cap space.

I'm waking up on the sunny side of the bed this morning, we got our QB, we still have 7 picks in 2012, 7 picks in 2013 & 6 picks in 2014.
Solid post dude. Other side of the argument for me, but I gotta respect the optimism.
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We all agreed Manning or RGIII/ Luck. So I'm stoked
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Old 03-10-2012, 08:28 AM   #7
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Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft

I haven't noticed SmootSmack post anything yet...

Is there still a chance or scenario where we trade Orakpo for a 1st round pick this year or next? He was mentioned at one point as being on the table with some team... I assumed the Rams, but apparently not?

Anyone?
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Old 03-10-2012, 10:56 AM   #9
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I haven't noticed SmootSmack post anything yet...

Is there still a chance or scenario where we trade Orakpo for a 1st round pick this year or next? He was mentioned at one point as being on the table with some team... I assumed the Rams, but apparently not?

Anyone?
Sorry, I was at a dinner party last night. Wasn't expecting all this to happen. Before I walked in the door I spoke with a "contact" who said "Browns have upped their offer. Rams really want that #4 overall. Skins deciding what to do. Will probably be a few more days"

Boy was he wrong! And, for the record, so was I. I said it wouldn't happen so quickly and I got the trade parameters wrong. So let me first take the anti-CultBrennan59 approach and just apologize for getting that wrong.

In my opinion, I'm still not totally convinced the gap between Griffin and Tannehill is huge. That said, it's only my opinion and we absolutely had to get a QB (or two) this offseason.

Giving up a 2014 1st is pretty irrelevant to me at this point. I mean we're all operating under the assumption (I should say all of us who are down on the trade) it seems that that pick will also be a top #10 pick. Let's hope it's not.

I don't like giving up this year's 2nd. They could done a lot with that. Use it and our 3rd to move up some, use it to move down, or just use it.

It can be said now that Orakpo was part of a possible three-team scenario that would have landed the Rams picks and a current WR, the Redskins the #2 pick and possibly a later pick, and the third team as a pass rusher. The rumor was San Diego and Vincent Jackson, though to be fair I never understood or got clarity on how that would work.
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Old 03-10-2012, 11:10 AM   #10
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Sorry, I was at a dinner party last night. Wasn't expecting all this to happen. Before I walked in the door I spoke with a "contact" who said "Browns have upped their offer. Rams really want that #4 overall. Skins deciding what to do. Will probably be a few more days"

Boy was he wrong! And, for the record, so was I. I said it wouldn't happen so quickly and I got the trade parameters wrong. So let me first take the anti-CultBrennan59 approach and just apologize for getting that wrong.

In my opinion, I'm still not totally convinced the gap between Griffin and Tannehill is huge. That said, it's only my opinion and we absolutely had to get a QB (or two) this offseason.

Giving up a 2014 1st is pretty irrelevant to me at this point. I mean we're all operating under the assumption (I should say all of us who are down on the trade) it seems that that pick will also be a top #10 pick. Let's hope it's not.

I don't like giving up this year's 2nd. They could done a lot with that. Use it and our 3rd to move up some, use it to move down, or just use it.

It can be said now that Orakpo was part of a possible three-team scenario that would have landed the Rams picks and a current WR, the Redskins the #2 pick and possibly a later pick, and the third team as a pass rusher. The rumor was San Diego and Vincent Jackson, though to be fair I never understood or got clarity on how that would work.
SS, I think you called it pretty well when you posted a week or so ago stating we were "all in" for RG3. The whole Tannehill talk I would answer with this, why would the Browns up there offer and Skins would follow upping theirs to get the number 2 pick if Tannehill is close or just as capable? I think the choices of the Skins and the Browns are a testament of just how uncomfortable both are with taking Tannehill at 4 or 6. Gotta assume both thought Tannehill seemed to have alot more questions than RG3
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Old 03-10-2012, 08:35 AM   #11
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Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft

we have our QB, no need to trade our stud OLB pro bowler for a pick that we dont seem to value to highly in the first place. Keep our young talent and be super smart in free agency.

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Old 03-10-2012, 08:42 AM   #12
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we have our QB, no need to trade our stud OLB pro bowler for a pick that we dont seem to value to highly in the first place. Keep our young talent and be super smart in free agency.
I agree.

I was asking if anyone had any inside information on if this was/is part of this whole plan... use Rak to gain back one (or 2) of the picks.

I'm not for it... I'm just seeing if there is the chance of it happening.
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great,more giants fans giving their expert opinions. You know RG3 is gonna torch ya!!!!
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great,more giants fans giving their expert opinions. You know RG3 is gonna torch ya!!!!
did you read my post or just see the giants logo in the avatar and comment? As far as torching the Giants, we shall see about that, but you should at least give the kid a few practices before you start with that.
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we have our QB, no need to trade our stud OLB pro bowler for a pick that we dont seem to value to highly in the first place. Keep our young talent and be super smart in free agency.
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