Ukraine mega thread

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Giantone

My God do you ever read what you write, you are seriously ignorant. I posted what he didn't do for Ukraine ,he got Impeached for it .......comrade chico!

You gotta stop quoting him it forces me to see the ignorance. Lol

[SunnySide]

maybe im just in a bad mood today (I have to watch the sound of music tonight) ...

but can you guys drop the trump talk. fuck trump

eveyr thread just gravitates to the median .. which is trump biden blah blah blah

fuck both of them. one is a con artist and the other is old as fuck and only won bc he went up against the worst president of all time.

were robots at this point ... repeating talking points about how the other side just repeats talking pionts

our discussions in here are on an algorythm (or how ever you spell that word) .. everyone knows exactly where any discussion is going and who is going to say what

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

maybe im just in a bad mood today (I have to watch the sound of music tonight) ...

but can you guys drop the trump talk. fuck trump

eveyr thread just gravitates to the median .. which is trump biden blah blah blah

fuck both of them. one is a con artist and the other is old as fuck and only won bc he went up against the worst president of all time.

were robots at this point ... repeating talking points about how the other side just repeats talking pionts

our discussions in here are on an algorythm (or how ever you spell that word) .. everyone knows exactly where any discussion is going and who is going to say what

+1 (just keeping the algorithm going). The line about Trump/Biden rings particularly true.

The worst part is if Trump wins the nom in 2024 Biden gets my vote all over again, despite the fact he's geriatric as fuck and just on principle I don't want anyone near the age of 80 running the country or even working in Congress.

[SunnySide]

"ghost of Kiev" .. a rogue Ukraine mig fighter is rumored to have 6 air to sir kills as of 2 hours ago. dont know if its real, and i imagine people just want some knight in shinnig armor but the story is badass if true. i hope it is.

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russia wants to talk surrender, Ukraine President Zelensky wants to talk,perhaps will accept being a neutral country .. whcih means he steps down and russia puts russian plants in charge and things go back to pre 2014 status

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Snake island - a tiny tiny little island with like 2 houses on it. 13 ukraine soldiers there. russian warship announces over speaker "capitualte or die"

ukraine's are heard saying "well this is it". they then turn their speaker up loud and told the russian warship to "go fuck yourself"

they lied soon after.

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[BaltimoreSkins]

So you thought Obama's handling of Georgia and Ukraine were ok? I think the applications of loose handed sanctions really lends itself to the framework of what we are seeing now.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

So you thought Obama's handling of Georgia and Ukraine were ok? I think the applications of loose handed sanctions really lends itself to the framework of what we are seeing now.

Im not sure who you were asking but no i dont think any President since 1991 has crippled Putin the way they should have. Including Trump who contrary to what fox news says absolutely gave Putin and the dirty Russian money (shocker) credibility. Those dozen or so oligarchs that keep Putin in power need to be directly sanctioned. London is flooded with billions of dollars of dirty Russian money. The German pipeline has to be shut down. The problem is money always comes first in every country and it has to stop. We (i mean everyone besides China, and Iran basically) could absolutely cut off and cripple Putin and his billionaire thugs. The problem again is that it will effect the economy (in the short term) and certain citizens will go crazy because they can’t see the forest thru the trees. Fox news will say look what Biden did to the economy. Right wing media all over the world will go full uproar because their pockets get light for a time. It always comes back to money over life. It is a real slippery slope.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Im not sure who you were asking but no i dont think any President since 1991 has crippled Putin the way they should have. Including Trump who contrary to what fox news says absolutely gave Putin and the dirty Russian money (shocker) credibility. Those dozen or so oligarchs that keep Putin in power need to be directly sanctioned. London is flooded with billions of dollars of dirty Russian money. The German pipeline has to be shut down. The problem is money always comes first in every country and it has to stop. We (i mean everyone besides China, and Iran basically) could absolutely cut off and cripple Putin and his billionaire thugs. The problem again is that it will effect the economy (in the short term) and certain citizens will go crazy because they can’t see the forest thru the trees. Fox news will say look what Biden did to the economy. Right wing media all over the world will go full uproar because their pockets get light for a time. It always comes back to money over life. It is a real slippery slope.

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Well, I'll be damned, Punch and me actually agree on a political post.

I pretty sure I just saw a pig fly by my window.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Well, I'll be damned, Punch and me actually agree on a political post.

I pretty sure I just saw a pig fly by my window.

This man has never been so happy.

Btw i said 91 in my post because thats when the Soviet Union fell and thats when Putin got bent. He wasn’t in power until 99 though.

Man, same year Snyder came into power. Damn the world got dark and mean in 1999.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Btw i said 91 in my post because thats when the Soviet Union fell and thats when Putin got bent. He wasn’t in power until 99 though.

Man, same year Snyder came into power. Damn the world got dark and mean in 1999.

In honor of the 13 Ukraine soldiers, 1999, go fuck yourself.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

So you thought Obama's handling of Georgia and Ukraine were ok? I think the applications of loose handed sanctions really lends itself to the framework of what we are seeing now.

Putin then went into Ukraine and annexed Crimea under Obama watch.

I dunno, Its just exhausting to think how we got here. It sux for everybody. Im pulling for them to take Russia initial first big blow and then bog them down. Tough to see that happening.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Putin then went into Ukraine and annexed Crimea under Obama watch.

I dunno, Its just exhausting to think how we got here. It sux for everybody. Im pulling for them to take Russia initial first big blow and then bog them down. Tough to see that happening.

You need to STFU!


• ⁠Praised Putin constantly, called him a "strong leader", has peddled statements like "he's done a really great job outsmarting our country"

• ⁠Impeached for illegally withholding Ukraine military aid, already appropriated to them by Congress, unless they made up political dirt on Biden. Specifically Ukraine was asking for the Javelin anti-tank systems that are now helping them fend off Russian advancements.

• ⁠Trump dismissed and cast doubt about Russian hacking, particularly when the U.S determined that Russia hacked the DNC in 2016, while ironically enough, he encouraged Russian cyber attacks on national TV saying, "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,"

• ⁠When addressing Russian election interference and cyber attacks, Trump proclaimed "I don't see any reason why it would be Russia" after speaking directly with Putin, defending Russia and trusting Putin over our own intelligence agencies. Later he "corrected" himself, claiming that he meant to say "wouldn't" instead of would.

• ⁠Trump suggested the U.S. work directly with Russia on cybersecurity. Trump refused to punish or critique the SolarWinds hack.

• ⁠Almost directly after the 2016 election, Trump sought to weaken U.S. sanctions on Russia, while he was even open to lifting sanctions.

• ⁠Trump dismissed the notion that Putin was a "killer", downplaying the idea that Putin resorts to using violence and oppressive tactics to crush political opponents. He defended Putin, rationalizing his ruthless despotism in the process, declaring, "There are a lot of killers. Do you think our country is so innocent?"

• ⁠Trump shared highly classified U.S. intelligence with Russian officials in the Oval Office in 2017.

• ⁠Trump repeated Kremlin talking points related to the Russian annexation of Crimea, reiterating things like, "The people of Crimea, from what I've heard, would rather be with Russia than where they were."

• ⁠Trump constantly attacked NATO, aligning himself with Putin. (quite relevant)

• ⁠Trump thanked Putin for expelling hundreds of U.S. diplomats as a retaliation for sanctions.

• ⁠Trump refused to make a statement about the 10th anniversary of the Russia-Georgia war. According to John Bolton, European leaders noticed Trump's silence and "became even more concerned about American resolve."

• ⁠According to congressional testimony, Trump declined to publicly condemn a Russian attack against Ukrainian military vessels in November 2018, even though the State Department prepared a statement for him

• ⁠Trump congratulated and gave legitimacy to Putin's re election win in 2018, a victory said to "lack genuine competition"

• ⁠Sergei Skripal, an ex Russian spy that defected to the UK, was poisoned. Sanctions were announced, Trump attempted to rescind them, while asserting that the U.S. was being "too tough on Putin"

• ⁠When congress passed new sanctions against Russia in 2017, Trump was very reluctant to signing the bill, and probably wouldn't have signed it if the bill didn't pass with veto-proof majorities in both houses

• ⁠In 2017 it was reported that Trump was considering returning spy bases to Russia.

• ⁠Trump praised and highlighted pro-Russian leaders in Europe. Far right European leaders with close ties to Putin. He even met a Kremlin ally at the Whitehouse.

• ⁠When Trump withdrew troops from Syria, it gave Russia and Putin an opportunity to control abandoned U.S. outposts and checkpoints.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Buddy of mine air national guard based out of Martins air base. Got some papers and is shipping out to Germany right now. Things about to go down.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Buddy of mine air national guard based out of Martins air base. Got some papers and is shipping out to Germany right now. Things about to go down.

We have to stand ground over there just to show Putin there is a line. This will never go further than Ukraine (which is already too far) imo.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Hopefully this ends with a bullet between Putin's eyes.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Hopefully this ends with a bullet between Putin's eyes.

This I agree with!