trump Inpeachment...............

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

I agree. It's also not news, it's a guy hosting a podcast where he gathered widespread opinions of Iranian citizens and presented it under the banner of the NYT.



I'm not gonna let one person's, let alone hundreds of theirs, influence my opinion. I guess that's the difference between me and you.



Who could've guessed that Suleimani had people that approved of his work? Certainly not I. Also, how many of those people do you think consider themselves Dems?

Since 1979 we have been Iran's enemy. It is not inconceivable that someone revered by iranian leadership and many iranian citizens would hate and target US soldiers and citizens. What boggles my mind, is how the left can so clearly understand that people like southern civil war leaders and racists from this country's past don't deserve statues or schools named after them, but when they have a modern day equivalent of the people who thought blacks were only 3/5 a person they sing his praises or better give credence to the deluded souls who sing his praises.

It is in my mind, hypothetically, as if back in 1938 the US had had the ability to take Hitler out, then the press reported the mourning of the Nazi crowds as somehow a significant fact as to whether taking that evil man's life was beneficial to Europe's safety.

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[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Since 1979 we have been Iran's enemy. It is not inconceivable that someone revered by iranian leadership and many iranian citizens would hate and target US soldiers and citizens. What boggles my mind, is how the left can so clearly understand that people like southern civil war leaders and racists from this country's past don't deserve statues or schools named after them, but when they have a modern day equivalent of the people who thought blacks were only 3/5 a person they sing his praises or better give credence to the deluded souls who sing his praises.

It is in my mind, hypothetically, as if back in 1938 the US had had the ability to take Hitler out, then the press reported the mourning of the Nazi crowds as somehow a significant fact as to whether taking that evil man's life was beneficial to Europe's safety.

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Pure comedy how lefties think, isn't it?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by mooby

I agree. It's also not news, it's a guy hosting a podcast where he gathered widespread opinions of Iranian citizens and presented it under the banner of the NYT.

I'm not gonna let one person's, let alone hundreds of theirs, influence my opinion. I guess that's the difference between me and you.

Who could've guessed that Suleimani had people that approved of his work? Certainly not I. Also, how many of those people do you think consider themselves Dems?

There you have it, people can not discern the difference between an actual news story and an a "opinion piece",.......and lump everything under mainstream media.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

I agree. It's also not news, it's a guy hosting a podcast where he gathered widespread opinions of Iranian citizens and presented it under the banner of the NYT.

I'm not gonna let one person's, let alone hundreds of theirs, influence my opinion. I guess that's the difference between me and you.

Who could've guessed that Suleimani had people that approved of his work? Certainly not I. Also, how many of those people do you think consider themselves Dems?

What this really is about is Orange Man Bad...like the woman in s10 video says, she will lose friends because she thanks trump for killing a major terrorist.

Instead of rallying around a significant end to a a guy who is responsible for so much destruction and death...we’ve seen the media question and denigrate the action take. This is fake news because the narrative is false.

Also if you pushed any WW3 bullshit, you pushed outlandish hyperbole.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

There you have it, people can not discern the difference between an actual news story and an a "opinion piece",.......and lump everything under mainstream media.

Iran actually admitted to shooting the plane down.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Iran actually admitted to shooting the plane down.

Yes they did . Still does nothing in the fact that people can't tell the difference between an opinion story/editorial and a news story.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Yes they did . Still does nothing in the fact that people can't tell the difference between an opinion story/editorial and a news story.

They push their narrative as fact. It’s clearly not, so dishonesty over facts makes them a liar.

Check out the obituary on Suleimani by the NYT

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/03/o...mani-dead.html

Master of Iran’s intrigue and built a Shiite Axis Of Power

Dishonest to a fault. No mention of terrorist which he was designated by bush and Obama admins....why aren’t we callin him in the mainstream media a terrorist which he was designated

Also anybody perpetuating trump didn’t have the authority are again pushing fake news. Period

[httr198020]

Originally Posted by mooby

Jesus fucking christ I don't even know where to start with you. Is Fox News paying you? Because if they aren't they should be.

I know where you can start. How about pointing out where I'm wrong. Everything I posted here I can prove.

[Chico23231]

Major protest in Iran!

https://twitter.com/SecPompeo/status...64377444618240


https://www.dailywire.com/news/death...hot-down-plane

https://www.msnbc.com/david-gura/wat...et-76502085523

Wow....this is a great response!

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by httr198020

I know where you can start. How about pointing out where I'm wrong. Everything I posted here I can prove.

No you can't.


httr 198020 ,"Donald Trump is not a racist. "


https://www.Donald Trump is not a racist.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history


https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...mments/588067/


https://www.washingtonpost.com/

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

They push their narrative as fact. It’s clearly not, so dishonesty over facts makes them a liar.

........reminds me of you.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by httr198020

Donald Trump is not a racist. I've been to four Trump rallies not including the black leadership summit at the White House. Donald Trump and his supporters a very kind and welcoming to people of all races and backgrounds. We don't care about race. We care about issues. Yet it doesn't suprise me that you believe he's a racist. The media have done a good job of crafting false narratives to poison the American people against the president.

Who do you think actually believes that? Let's now go to reality where we can see for ourselves about Trump rallies.





Donald Trump isn't racist yet he....

1) Own father was arrested at a KKK rally
2) Said there were good people on both sides at a white nationalist rally
3) Has retweeted several propaganda from known white nationalists.


You know what, fuck it.

https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/122708...racism-history

1973: The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to black tenants and lied to black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to discriminating before.

1980s: Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, accused another one of Trump’s businesses of discrimination. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” Brown said. “It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back.”

1988: In a commencement speech at Lehigh University, Trump spent much of his speech accusing countries like Japan of “stripping the United States of economic dignity.” This matches much of his current rhetoric on China.

1989: In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent seven to 13 years in prison, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.

1991: A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump at first denied the remarks, but later said in a 1997 Playboy interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”

1992: The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices.

1993: In congressional testimony, Trump said that some Native American reservations operating casinos shouldn’t be allowed because “they don’t look like Indians to me.”

2000: In opposition to a casino proposed by the St. Regis Mohawk tribe, which he saw as a financial threat to his casinos in Atlantic City, Trump secretly ran a series of ads suggesting the tribe had a “record of criminal activity [that] is well documented.”

2004: In season two of The Apprentice, Trump fired Kevin Allen, a black contestant, for being overeducated. “You’re an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done anything,” Trump said on the show. “At some point you have to say, ‘That’s enough.’”

2005: Trump publicly pitched what was essentially The Apprentice: White People vs. Black People. He said he “wasn’t particularly happy” with the most recent season of his show, so he was considering “an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world.”

2010: In 2010, there was a huge national controversy over the “Ground Zero Mosque” — a proposal to build a Muslim community center in Lower Manhattan, near the site of the 9/11 attacks. Trump opposed the project, calling it “insensitive,” and offered to buy out one of the investors in the project. On The Late Show With David Letterman, Trump argued, referring to Muslims, “Well, somebody’s blowing us up. Somebody’s blowing up buildings, and somebody’s doing lots of bad stuff.”

2011: Trump played a big role in pushing false rumors that Obama — the country’s first black president — was not born in the US. He even sent investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama’s birth certificate. Obama later released his birth certificate, calling Trump a ”carnival barker.” (The research has found a strong correlation between “birtherism,” as this conspiracy theory is called, and racism.) Trump has reportedly continued pushing this conspiracy theory in private.

2011: While Trump suggested that Obama wasn’t born in the US, he also argued that maybe Obama wasn’t a good enough student to have gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law School, and demanded Obama release his university transcripts. Trump claimed, “I heard he was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?”

Keep telling yourself he's not a racist. We in reality land will know better.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

They push their narrative as fact. It’s clearly not, so dishonesty over facts makes them a liar.

Check out the obituary on Suleimani by the NYT

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/03/o...mani-dead.html

Master of Iran’s intrigue and built a Shiite Axis Of Power

Dishonest to a fault. No mention of terrorist which he was designated by bush and Obama admins....why aren’t we callin him in the mainstream media a terrorist which he was designated

Also anybody perpetuating trump didn’t have the authority are again pushing fake news. Period

Speaking of fucking dishonest. You can't get more dishonest than your rant just there. Did you even read the god damn article? Let me point out specifically where they did IN FACT point out he was designated as a terrorist and so were his QUDs forces. Bush didn't designate him as one, it was Obama's administration that did, and Trump designated the QUDs forces.

In the West, he was seen as a clandestine force behind an Iranian campaign of international terrorism. He and other Iranian officials were designated as terrorists by the United States and Israel in 2011, accused of a plot to kill the ambassador of Saudi Arabia, one of Iran’s chief enemies in the region, in Washington. Last year, in April, the entire Quds Force was listed as a foreign terrorism group by the Trump administration.

You Trumpsters are too easy. You ignore facts, you don't read shit. Logic isn't something you value much. I guess it's much easier to listen to Hannity tell you everything while proclaiming everything else as FAKE NEWS.

[httr198020]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Who do you think actually believes that? Let's now go to reality where we can see for ourselves about Trump rallies.





Donald Trump isn't racist yet he....

1) Own father was arrested at a KKK rally
2) Said there were good people on both sides at a white nationalist rally
3) Has retweeted several propaganda from known white nationalists.


You know what, fuck it.

https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/122708...racism-history




Keep telling yourself he's not a racist. We in reality land will know better.

The people who believe that are those of us who actually attended a Trump rally. I've attended multiple Trump rallies including an all black Trump rally at the White House. White Trump supporters have treated me with nothing but kindness. Not once was a felt threatened or unwelcome. Trump rallies have people of all backgrounds and everyone is welcome. However, I did have a problem with the unhinged leftwing
protesters who threaten to kill me. They called me a coon, house n#gg@r, uncle tom, bootlick, monkey, a buck dancing negreo, etc. One of the Antifa bastards even throw a balloon full of piss at me. Take a look at the video and you'll see what most Trump supporters are like.



1) There has been no evidence that Fred Trump was in anyway affiliated with the KKK. Being arrested a march doesn't mean he was a member or a person who supported their views. But guess who was a member of the KKK? Hillary Clinton's mentor and Barrack Obama's good buddy Robert Byrd. Yet I dont hearing liberals holding anything against them. This isn't a matter of opinion. It is a fact.

2) The president was right about Charlottesville. Trump said specifically that he denounce white racists who were at the rally long with the Antifa thugs who were attacking people. There were people who was peacefully protesting against the statue being taken down who wasn't part any white nationalist group. Those are the people Donald Trump was talking about.

3) Who the fuck cares? Trump is not a racist and neither are Trump supporters.

Now allow me to go over this list that you thing is evidence of racism.

1973: Words can not explain how much I dont give a shit whether or not this is true. Wasn't this around the time of segregation? Was this Donald Trump's company or his father's company? One way or the other it has no relevance on my life or any other black person.

1980s If this is true where are all the other black people who were also takem off the floor to validate his story?

1988: I dont see how this would be considered racist. But why exactly should I care?

1989: Wasnt these the same teens that confessed to gang raping a woman and bashing her head in? And? What is so racist about that?

1991: If Donald Trump did say that it was wrong and inappropriate but not racist. Personally, I think black people are lazy and I'm black.

1992: And? If a customer doesn't want black or women dealers then so be it. How does this make Donald Trump a racist?

1993: And? How was making that statement racist? Did he say he hated Native Americans or something?

2000: I'll ask the same question once again. How is that racist?

2004: That has nothing to do with racism.

2005: That would have been a good idea. What's so racist about that?

2010: I totally agree with Donald Trump on that.

2011: Asking to see Obama's birth certificate isn't a racial issue. He said the same thing about Ted Cruz..

2011: If Obama was really born in this country why did he release a fake birth certificate?



It looks like Trump was right again.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Since 1979 we have been Iran's enemy. It is not inconceivable that someone revered by iranian leadership and many iranian citizens would hate and target US soldiers and citizens. What boggles my mind, is how the left can so clearly understand that people like southern civil war leaders and racists from this country's past don't deserve statues or schools named after them, but when they have a modern day equivalent of the people who thought blacks were only 3/5 a person they sing his praises or better give credence to the deluded souls who sing his praises.

It is in my mind, hypothetically, as if back in 1938 the US had had the ability to take Hitler out, then the press reported the mourning of the Nazi crowds as somehow a significant fact as to whether taking that evil man's life was beneficial to Europe's safety.

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I agree, Iran's leadership (notice how I didn't include Iranian citizens) is our enemy. If they are as big of a threat as Trump thinks, he should declare war on them. Then take it to Congress, who in theory will agree the only way to solve the Iranian puzzle is to go to war with them.