Philly pre-game

[sdskinsfan2001]

Our offensive line is flaming hot bags of dogshit. There is no game plan that is going to work for 17 weeks with those bums up there.

Draft an OL with all 7 picks this coming off-season. That's kind of tongue in cheek, but it actually wouldn't be a bad idea. Keep Cosmi and Stromberg, replace everyone else. Burn that room down and rebuild it.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Our offensive line is flaming hot bags of dogshit. There is no game plan that is going to work for 17 weeks with those bums up there.

Draft an OL with all 7 picks this coming off-season. That's kind of tongue in cheek, but it actually wouldn't be a bad idea. Keep Cosmi and Stromberg, replace everyone else. Burn that room down and rebuild it.

I am simulating mock drafts for 2024since the last draft. It’s just too fun. Usually i go with 3 in the first four picks. Best available T and or G. It is absolutely such a necessity. If Sam doesn’t look like the guy by years end im good with taking maye or Williams if they fall!

[skinsfaninok]

Philly allowed us to run all over them last yr.. Won't happeb again this week

EAGLES 27
US 20

[Chief X_Phackter]

I wonder what Jabril Cox's status is. I was hopeful that we would have received word that he was being elevated from the practice squad by now. Surely he brings more to the table than Mayo...

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I wonder what Jabril Cox's status is. I was hopeful that we would have received word that he was being elevated from the practice squad by now. Surely he brings more to the table than Mayo...

Brings more to the table than mayo. True in so many ways. And i like Mayo(nnaise). It has no place at the table though really.

[calia]

Philly is not going to take this lightly and they're going to try to throw everything imaginable at Sam. Unless we get the ball out very fast and have a healthy dose of the run game early, I have a bad feeling about this game. Anything can happen in a division game, but I do not like the trajectories these teams are on. Our D has surrendered 70 points the last two weeks (felt like more), so we all need to stop talking about it being a top 5 or top 10 defense. They have that capability, but it isn't coming together (JDR, some of this is definitely on you). It's a long season, but they wilted against the Bills.

I do think we will see a better effort and game than last week (low bar). But I don't think it will be enough. I think Philly wins this comfortably at home 28-13, and sending us into full blown code-red, trap game, panic mode against Chicago.

Hope I am wrong about all of this.

[Chief X_Phackter]

I get what you are saying about the defense. Pretty much every aspect of this team can get better, but I don't put a lot on the defense so far. Yes, the Bills scored 37 points, but the 5 turnovers had a lot to do with that. The offense did not help them out - at all.

We just need to run the ball. Josh Jacobs ran 9 times for -2 yards against the Bills. BRob ran 10 times for 70 yards against the Bills. We CAN run the ball, and if we want any chance of winning this game, we will have to.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I get what you are saying about the defense. Pretty much every aspect of this team can get better, but I don't put a lot on the defense so far. Yes, the Bills scored 37 points, but the 5 turnovers had a lot to do with that. The offense did not help them out - at all.

We just need to run the ball. Josh Jacobs ran 9 times for -2 yards against the Bills. BRob ran 10 times for 70 yards against the Bills. We CAN run the ball, and if we want any chance of winning this game, we will have to.

Yep.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Through three games, we're 3rd in the league in yards per rushing attempt. We can run the ball, and the offensive line is a major reason why. You don't average 5 yards per rush with a dogshit line.

I personally think the offensive line has been way over criticized due to the amount of sacks Sam has taken. Of course the sacks that stick out, and the sacks everyone remembers, are the ones that resulted in a TD or safety when Wylie was beaten 1 on 1. However, most analysts I've heard - who actually look at the plays and not the box score - have indicated that the majority of the sacks aren't on the O-line.

Either way it's gotta get cleaned up, and that starts with EB.

[PorkSkins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Through three games, we're 3rd in the league in yards per rushing attempt. We can run the ball, and the offensive line is a major reason why. You don't average 5 yards per rush with a dogshit line.

I personally think the offensive line has been way over criticized due to the amount of sacks Sam has taken. Of course the sacks that stick out, and the sacks everyone remembers, are the ones that resulted in a TD or safety when Wylie was beaten 1 on 1. However, most analysts I've heard - who actually look at the plays and not the box score - have indicated that the majority of the sacks aren't on the O-line.

Either way it's gotta get cleaned up, and that starts with EB.

Agree with your entire post. Several of those sacks are attributed to Howell holding onto the ball too long, whether he's trying to look for the big play or seeing ghosts.

Finally, just because a line is having issues blocking against the pass doesn't mean they aren't capable of run blocking (this wasn't directed at you, Chief, but to others).

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Through three games, we're 3rd in the league in yards per rushing attempt. We can run the ball, and the offensive line is a major reason why. You don't average 5 yards per rush with a dogshit line.

I personally think the offensive line has been way over criticized due to the amount of sacks Sam has taken. Of course the sacks that stick out, and the sacks everyone remembers, are the ones that resulted in a TD or safety when Wylie was beaten 1 on 1. However, most analysts I've heard - who actually look at the plays and not the box score - have indicated that the majority of the sacks aren't on the O-line.

Either way it's gotta get cleaned up, and that starts with EB.

I agree the Oline has been run blocking wayyy better than they are getting credit for !
Pass blocking has been an issue though, yes Howell is responsible for a lot for the sacks, but some of them are just our guys, ie Wylie, getting flat out burnt.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Through three games, we're 3rd in the league in yards per rushing attempt. We can run the ball, and the offensive line is a major reason why. You don't average 5 yards per rush with a dogshit line.

I personally think the offensive line has been way over criticized due to the amount of sacks Sam has taken. Of course the sacks that stick out, and the sacks everyone remembers, are the ones that resulted in a TD or safety when Wylie was beaten 1 on 1. However, most analysts I've heard - who actually look at the plays and not the box score - have indicated that the majority of the sacks aren't on the O-line.

Either way it's gotta get cleaned up, and that starts with EB.

This 100, its Sam

[rocnrik]

I don’t have a good feeling about the game … I can see a epic blowout like Phi 52 us 17

If we come out flat and start like the first 3 games then it’s over early .. I would like just to see us keep it close and competitive .. This game will show IF Sam can adjust his play .. if the D can somehow keep us in it .. IF Ron can keep this team from collapsing.. If we lose bad and then get beat by the Bears it will be OVER ..I personally don’t see any way we beat the hated eagles .. hope I’m wrong

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Through three games, we're 3rd in the league in yards per rushing attempt. We can run the ball, and the offensive line is a major reason why. You don't average 5 yards per rush with a dogshit line.

I personally think the offensive line has been way over criticized due to the amount of sacks Sam has taken. Of course the sacks that stick out, and the sacks everyone remembers, are the ones that resulted in a TD or safety when Wylie was beaten 1 on 1. However, most analysts I've heard - who actually look at the plays and not the box score - have indicated that the majority of the sacks aren't on the O-line.

Either way it's gotta get cleaned up, and that starts with EB.

https://www.hogshaven.com/2023/9/27/...re-nothing-new


There is data here that supports this view.
EB's play calling with Mahomes: 62%pass:38%run
EB's play calling with Howell: 65% pass:35% run

That has to change.

Howell brings his own issues. As far back as a freshman in college he has been known to hold onto the ball and not know when to cut bait. This is what gives me pause when people say growing pains because this has been a 6 year problem that he still has. He is last in league allowing nearly 40% of pressures turn into sacks.

In defense of the o-line Sam has 2.5+ on 78 of his 124 drop backs that is second most to our favorite lightening rod Kirk Cousins.

Either way you slice it EB has to do a better job of working with his QB getting quick reads and running game as he hopefully grows into a quality QB.

[skinsfaninok]

The good news is we got Chicago next TNF.. We will need to bounce back after a most likely loss. The Eagles are prob the 3rd best team in the league right now and their OL is insane. I don't see us being able to stop that run game, and Hurts hasn't had a real good game yet, he's due. We are just not there yet to compete with the top tier teams