What is preventing Ike Hilliard and Gruden from replacing J. Doctson with Mo Harris?

Meks · 11-09-2018, 11:56 AM

Blame the front office. It all relates back to mismanagement

sevier2 · 11-09-2018, 12:09 PM

Harris has been playing plenty. My question to those of you who are saying we need to bench Doctson would be; Who do you put in to replace him?

What other options do we have that are undoubtedly BETTER than what Doctson can provide? If you're going to bench your first round pick you'd better be SURE there's an upgrade, not just "Maybe this guy can produce, we'll see.."

I agree, we need an upgrade in the WR department but as the roster stands right NOW, there isn't a whole lot sitting behind Doctson. Certainly not enough to warrant benching him.

Meks · 11-09-2018, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sevier2

Harris has been playing plenty. My question to those of you who are saying we need to bench Doctson would be; Who do you put in to replace him?

What other options do we have that are undoubtedly BETTER than what Doctson can provide? If you're going to bench your first round pick you'd better be SURE there's an upgrade, not just "Maybe this guy can produce, we'll see.."

I agree, we need an upgrade in the WR department but as the roster stands right NOW, there isn't a whole lot sitting behind Doctson. Certainly not enough to warrant benching him.

too many ppl think just like this. That his draft status should protect him. Bullshit. He's soft ass baby shit and can;t get off a jam to save his life. I'm all for the kid trying to improve but he's not exactly out performing anyone else... Also, wasn;t Doc a 2nd? or am i losing my shit cuz this franchise is in such shambles that I can;t tell the difference between my cousin and a turd?
(i'm fine with letting kirk go tho)

sevier2 · 11-09-2018, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Meks

too many ppl think just like this. That his draft status should protect him. Bullshit. He's soft ass baby shit and can;t get off a jam to save his life. I'm all for the kid trying to improve but he's not exactly out performing anyone else... Also, wasn;t Doc a 2nd? or am i losing my shit cuz this franchise is in such shambles that I can;t tell the difference between my cousin and a turd?
(i'm fine with letting kirk go tho)

I agree, draft status should have no bearing on who starts but you didn't answer my initial question.

Who do you put in instead of him with our current roster? Who do you trot out there as your starting 3 without Doctson?

Crowder out wide, Quinn in the slot and Harris on the other side?? Assuming those guys can even get healthy...

Doctson is not living up to draft status, for sure. But god damn we have nothing else...

jamf · 11-09-2018, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sevier2

I agree, draft status should have no bearing on who starts but you didn't answer my initial question.

Who do you put in instead of him with our current roster? Who do you trot out there as your starting 3 without Doctson?

Crowder out wide, Quinn in the slot and Harris on the other side?? Assuming those guys can even get healthy...

Doctson is not living up to draft status, for sure. But god damn we have nothing else...

Anyone!
Brian Quick, Floyd, or Harris.
Anything over 2 receptions and 30 yards is an improvement!

REDSKINS4ever · 11-09-2018, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Meks

Blame the front office. It all relates back to mismanagement

Exactly...!!!

Look at the 2016 1st rd draft results....into the 2nd round look at where the NYG drafted WR Sterling Shepard....Shepard has had a more productive career than Doctson and he's the #2 behind Beckum.....we can easily assume that Sterling Shepard (drafted 19 picks behind Doctson) could have been a 1st rd selection...GM Scott McCloughan should have known that Shepard was better at pick 21 in the 1st rd than Doctson was..

KI Skins Fan · 11-09-2018, 12:27 PM

I would activate Trey Quinn, play him in the slot, and move Mo harris outside where he could alternate with Doctson and Michael Floyd.

skinsfaninok · 11-09-2018, 02:12 PM

Mo Harris is a #4 WR on most rosters

skinsfan69 · 11-09-2018, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Mo Harris is a #4 WR on most rosters

He may be, but I swear if Harris was on the Pats they'd get production out of him. Look at what they're doing w/ Patterson.

skinsfaninok · 11-09-2018, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

He may be, but I swear if Harris was on the Pats they'd get production out of him. Look at what they're doing w/ Patterson.

O yeah but they would get production out of you and me too lol

sevier2 · 11-09-2018, 03:04 PM

I think the FO felt we had enough talent on the roster to put off signing any WR help this year. ON PAPER we still look pretty formidable. We've got Reed, Davis, Thompson, Crowder... They added Guice which would have been huge and A. Smith has generally utilized those positions (TE & RB) more so than his wide-outs.

Now that the production hasn't come from the TE's and Backfield our lack of talent at wideout has been exposed.

It's definitely an issue, but I still don't think shuffling in some JAG's is going to improve it. I'm afraid this is a problem that won't be fixed until the off-season.

SFREDSKIN · 11-09-2018, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

He may be, but I swear if Harris was on the Pats they'd get production out of him. Look at what they're doing w/ Patterson.

And Doctson too.

11-09-2018, 11:56 AM	#1
Meks Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Jersey Age: 40 Posts: 5,831	Re: What is preventing Ike Hilliard and Gruden from replacing J. Doctson with Mo Harris? Blame the front office. It all relates back to mismanagement __________________ R.I.P #21SEAN TAYLOR

11-09-2018, 12:27 PM	#7
KI Skins Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Jacksonville, Forida Posts: 6,412	Re: What is preventing Ike Hilliard and Gruden from replacing J. Doctson with Mo Harris? I would activate Trey Quinn, play him in the slot, and move Mo harris outside where he could alternate with Doctson and Michael Floyd.

11-09-2018, 02:12 PM	#8
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,192	Re: What is preventing Ike Hilliard and Gruden from replacing J. Doctson with Mo Harris? Mo Harris is a #4 WR on most rosters __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

11-09-2018, 03:04 PM	#11
sevier2 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 539	Re: What is preventing Ike Hilliard and Gruden from replacing J. Doctson with Mo Harris? I think the FO felt we had enough talent on the roster to put off signing any WR help this year. ON PAPER we still look pretty formidable. We've got Reed, Davis, Thompson, Crowder... They added Guice which would have been huge and A. Smith has generally utilized those positions (TE & RB) more so than his wide-outs. Now that the production hasn't come from the TE's and Backfield our lack of talent at wideout has been exposed. It's definitely an issue, but I still don't think shuffling in some JAG's is going to improve it. I'm afraid this is a problem that won't be fixed until the off-season. __________________ This is an environment of welcoming and you should just get the hell out of here.

11-09-2018, 12:09 PM	#2
sevier2 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 539	Re: What is preventing Ike Hilliard and Gruden from replacing J. Doctson with Mo Harris? Harris has been playing plenty. My question to those of you who are saying we need to bench Doctson would be; Who do you put in to replace him? What other options do we have that are undoubtedly BETTER than what Doctson can provide? If you're going to bench your first round pick you'd better be SURE there's an upgrade, not just "Maybe this guy can produce, we'll see.." I agree, we need an upgrade in the WR department but as the roster stands right NOW, there isn't a whole lot sitting behind Doctson. Certainly not enough to warrant benching him. __________________ This is an environment of welcoming and you should just get the hell out of here.

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