Redskins release Kai Forbath, sign Dustin Hopkins

Schneed10 · 09-14-2015, 01:08 PM

Important statistical perspective:

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Since the start of the 2012 season, Forbath had made 87.1 percent of his kicks (60-69), ranking him 19th in the NFL over that period. He's 26th in accuracy since the 2013 season (84.3 percent), according to ESPN Stats & Information.

So 87% over the last 3 years is only good for 19th in the NFL. These days kickers are way more accurate than they ever were before. Don't go thinking they necessarily threw the baby out with the bathwater here, Kai's supposed strength as a FG kicker isn't really a strength at all.

Buffalo Bob · 09-14-2015, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

Important statistical perspective:

So 87% over the last 3 years is only good for 19th in the NFL. These days kickers are way more accurate than they ever were before. Don't go thinking they necessarily threw the baby out with the bathwater here, Kai's supposed strength as a FG kicker isn't really a strength at all.

I don't think you can take those statistics at face value. A kicker whose home field is a dome, outdoor turf, or grass in a good weather city has an advantage.

MTK · 09-14-2015, 01:28 PM

Looks knee jerk on the surface but it's really not. He didn't have a strong camp and obviously they've been looking to replace him for a while now.

NC_Skins · 09-14-2015, 03:55 PM

Personally I thought Hocker had a better camp last training camp and the team should have went with him. After all, they did draft him. Now the guy who Hocker beat out at the Saints is now hired to replaced Forbath. Think about that Mickey Mouse shit.

CRedskinsRule · 09-14-2015, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Personally I thought Hocker had a better camp last training camp and the team should have went with him. After all, they did draft him. Now the guy who Hocker beat out at the Saints is now hired to replaced Forbath. Think about that Mickey Mouse shit.

They may have had different goals (longer distance over accuracy or vice versa). And you know what Forbath brought so maybe you keep him but on a very short leash. Heck we were all glad when Gano left but Carolina has kept him for a while. Kickers move around, and good ones eventually find the right place.

MTK · 10-05-2015, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Personally I thought Hocker had a better camp last training camp and the team should have went with him. After all, they did draft him. Now the guy who Hocker beat out at the Saints is now hired to replaced Forbath. Think about that Mickey Mouse shit.

And? 😉

That Guy · 09-14-2015, 02:16 PM

field position matters, and our coverage teams are terrible, so we really need the other guys starting on the 20 every time, it'd eliminate half of our coverage problems.

SouperMeister · 09-14-2015, 03:43 PM

I thought Amerson should have been the fall guy long before Kai, but it's good if the message is sent that the status quo of mediocrity is not good enough around here anymore.

CRedskinsRule · 09-14-2015, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SouperMeister

I thought Amerson should have been the fall guy long before Kai, but it's good if the message is sent that the status quo of mediocrity is not good enough around here anymore.

I imagine Amerson is gone once Breeland is back and playing.

BaltimoreSkins · 09-14-2015, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

field position matters, and our coverage teams are terrible, so we really need the other guys starting on the 20 every time, it'd eliminate half of our coverage problems.

Yep it is a lot easier to replace one kicker than 10 crappy coverage players.

JWsleep · 09-14-2015, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Yep it is a lot easier to replace one kicker than 10 crappy coverage players.

Yup. And we should probably think about punting out of bounds. Seriously. We are just getting killed with kick coverage.

MTK · 09-14-2015, 03:57 PM

The Saints were working out kickers last week so let's not anoint Hocker just yet. Plus the competition was close between them.

TheMalcolmConnection · 09-14-2015, 04:21 PM

If Hopkins can boom them into the end zone every time, I'll take him missing a 40+ FG every now and then.

Hog1 · 09-14-2015, 06:45 PM

How many KO runbacks did we have yesterday? One?
At this time we (and we showed it yesterday) cannot risk a lot of returns of any kind.....

Irrefutable · 09-14-2015, 07:49 PM

former Seattle CB Will Blackmon visiting Tuesday

09-14-2015, 01:28 PM	#3
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,846	re: Redskins release Kai Forbath, sign Dustin Hopkins Looks knee jerk on the surface but it's really not. He didn't have a strong camp and obviously they've been looking to replace him for a while now. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

09-14-2015, 03:55 PM	#4
NC_Skins Gamebreaker Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 14,602	re: Redskins release Kai Forbath, sign Dustin Hopkins Personally I thought Hocker had a better camp last training camp and the team should have went with him. After all, they did draft him. Now the guy who Hocker beat out at the Saints is now hired to replaced Forbath. Think about that Mickey Mouse shit. __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

09-14-2015, 02:16 PM	#7
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	re: Redskins release Kai Forbath, sign Dustin Hopkins field position matters, and our coverage teams are terrible, so we really need the other guys starting on the 20 every time, it'd eliminate half of our coverage problems.

09-14-2015, 03:43 PM	#8
SouperMeister Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 61 Posts: 3,419	re: Redskins release Kai Forbath, sign Dustin Hopkins I thought Amerson should have been the fall guy long before Kai, but it's good if the message is sent that the status quo of mediocrity is not good enough around here anymore.

09-14-2015, 03:57 PM	#12
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,846	re: Redskins release Kai Forbath, sign Dustin Hopkins The Saints were working out kickers last week so let's not anoint Hocker just yet. Plus the competition was close between them. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

09-14-2015, 04:21 PM	#13
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	re: Redskins release Kai Forbath, sign Dustin Hopkins If Hopkins can boom them into the end zone every time, I'll take him missing a 40+ FG every now and then. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

09-14-2015, 06:45 PM	#14
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Redskins release Kai Forbath, sign Dustin Hopkins How many KO runbacks did we have yesterday? One? At this time we (and we showed it yesterday) cannot risk a lot of returns of any kind..... __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

09-14-2015, 07:49 PM	#15
Irrefutable The Starter Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,622	Re: Redskins release Kai Forbath, sign Dustin Hopkins former Seattle CB Will Blackmon visiting Tuesday

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