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Old 03-28-2011, 04:06 PM   #1
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Re: You're the GM - What do you do?

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There are LOTS of folks who cover the NFL who are absolutely convinced that Mike Shanahan is greasing the skids for Kyle Shanahan to take over the Redskins down the line a couple of years.

That does not make them correct - - but lots of folks see things going down that way...
If they turn the Skins around, do you have a problem with that?
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Old 03-29-2011, 10:03 PM   #2
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If they turn the Skins around, do you have a problem with that?
Absolutely not. IF THEY TURN THE SKINS AROUND...
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Old 03-28-2011, 07:59 AM   #3
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I remember last year there was a thread like this that created some good discussions.. I figured I'd bring it back for this year.

What I would do:
Draft
Round 1: Robert Quinn OLB, North Carolina
Round 2: Jake Locker QB, Washington
Round 5: Kenrick Ellis NT, Hampton
Round 5: Tim Barnes C, Missouri
Round 6: Stephen Burton WR, West Texas A&M
Round 7: Depth OT
Round 7: Depth LB

Free Agency
I do absolutely everything I can to get Paul Posluszny (Longshot)
If unsuccessful I go after Barrett Ruud (Ex-Allen draft pick, reasonable).
Re-Sign Santana Moss, Jammal Brown, H.B. Blades, Will Montgomery, Rex Grossman, and Chris Wilson at the best price possible.
Tender Rocky McIntosh, Reed Doughty, and Stephon Heyer and pray for my life that teams have interest.
Allow Carlos Rogers, Andre Carter, Philip Buchanon, to leave and show them the door on the way out and in Carlos' case personally drive him to the airport.
I would look for some depth at Corner, Outside and Inside Linebacker in free agency.

Trades
Attempt to trade Donovan McNabb for a 5th-6th rounder in the 2012 draft.
Attempt to trade Haynesworth for a 3rd-4th rounder in the 2012 draft.
If no one bites, release McNabb and hold on to Haynesworth and well um.. be depressed.
Attempt to trade Chris Cooley for a 1st round pick in 2012, if unsuccessful settle for a high 2nd.

Lineup
LT: Trent Williams
LG: Kory Lichtensteiger
C: Casey Rabach/Tim Barnes *Casey will be gone in 2012.
RG: Will Montgomery
RT: Jammal Brown
QB: Rex Grossman/Jake Locker
HB: Ryan Torain/Keilland Williams
WR: Santana Moss/Anthony Armstrong/Malcolm Kelly
TE: Fred Davis
DE: Adam Carriker
DE: Philip Daniels *I'm going into the 2012 draft looking at this position closely.
NT: Anthony Bryant/Kenrick Hampton
OLB: Brian Orakpo
OLB: Robert Quinn
ILB: Paul Posluszny/Barrett Ruud
ILB: London Fletcher
CB: DeAngelo Hall/Kevin Barnes
FS: Oshiomogho Atogwe
SS: Laron Landry

Future
I'm looking at finishing 8-8 at best and earning once again a top 15 draft pick. I will hopefully have an extra 1st from Chris Cooley along with a 5/6th from McNabb and a 3rd/4th from Haynesworth. This draft will be all about getting a quality Defensive End along with a Receiver.
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Old 03-28-2011, 08:16 AM   #4
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You're naming Barnes the starting corner?

We cant afford to let Rogers go, need to find a way to keep him for the right price.
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I'd make the cheerleader uniforms smaller.
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Old 03-28-2011, 10:21 AM   #6
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After waiting in this lack of an offseason, I have had more time to think about strategy. In the draft I am doing anything I can to get the 17th and 60th pick from NE for our first. You can call me nuts, but it's possible until it isn't possible. I also think McNabb still has value in this league.

Draft:

Round 1 Trade down with NE (17) Mike Pouncey OG Florida
Round 2 (41) Phil Taylor NT Baylor
Round 2 Trade down with NE (60) Andy Dalton QB TCU
Round 3 Trade with Cardinals for McNabb (69) Ryan Williams RB VTech
Round 5 Traded to Cardinals with McNabb
Round 5 Trade for Haynesworth from Bills Edmund Gates WR Abilene Christan
Round 6 D’Aundre Reed, DE Arizona
Round 7 Anthony Sherman, FB UConn
Round 7 Kris Durham WR Georgia

Free Agents (no capp)

Top Tier
Lamarr Woodley LB Pittsburgh
Namdi Asomugha CB Oakland
Sidney Rice WR Vikings
Ryan Harris T Denver
Marc Bulger QB Baltimore
Paul Posluszny ILB Bills

Lower Tier
Steve Smith WR NYG- not sure we would get him but I want to drive the price up

TO- Regardless of if you love him or hate him he shut up and produced last year. If he can stay like that I'd take him here.

Alex Smith QB 49ers- I don't want grossman here and this kid could get his chance here warming the spot for dalton to develop if we don't get Bulger.

Alan Branch DE/ NT Cardinals: He is Young and was a hell of a player at Michigan project player

Joey Porter LB Cardinals- Can he be a big enough distraction on the field to free up Rak? Target if we miss out on Woodley

D’Qwell Jackson LB Cleveland- If we miss out on Paul, this kid has skills.

Resign
Jamall Brown
Santana Moss
Phillip Buchanon

Starting Lineup:

LT: T. Williams
LG : M Pouncey
C: Lichtensteiger
RG: M. Williams/ Hicks/ Montgomery (competition)
RT J.Brown/ R. Harris (Competition)

QB: Bulger or Smith/ Beck (comp) backup Dalton
RB: Torian, R.Williams, K. Williams (Platoon)
FB: M. Sellars * Sherman Taking over later in the year

X: S. Rice or TO backup Gates (Who decides to sign with us)
Y: A.Armstrong
Slot: S.Moss or Steve Smith backup T. Austin (Who decides to Sign with us)
TE: Cooley/ Davis

DE: Carriker
NT: P.Taylor/ Bryant/ A.Branch (competition)
DE: Golston/ Jarmon/ A.Branch (competition)

OLB: Porter or Woodley
ILB: Posluszny or Jackson
ILB: Fletcher
OLB: Rak

CB: Asomugha
CB: Hall
Slot: Buchanon
SS: Landry
FS: OJ

K: Gano
P: Bidwell or Paulescu (comp)
KR: Banks

record:
On paper that is a strong team against a weaker schedule. So I see good things.
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Old 03-28-2011, 11:46 AM   #7
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After waiting in this lack of an offseason, I have had more time to think about strategy. In the draft I am doing anything I can to get the 17th and 60th pick from NE for our first. You can call me nuts, but it's possible until it isn't possible. I also think McNabb still has value in this league.

Draft:

Round 1 Trade down with NE (17) Mike Pouncey OG Florida
Round 2 (41) Phil Taylor NT Baylor
Round 2 Trade down with NE (60) Andy Dalton QB TCU
Round 3 Trade with Cardinals for McNabb (69) Ryan Williams RB VTech
Round 5 Traded to Cardinals with McNabb
Round 5 Trade for Haynesworth from Bills Edmund Gates WR Abilene Christan
Round 6 D’Aundre Reed, DE Arizona
Round 7 Anthony Sherman, FB UConn
Round 7 Kris Durham WR Georgia

Free Agents (no capp)

Top Tier
Lamarr Woodley LB Pittsburgh
Namdi Asomugha CB Oakland
Sidney Rice WR Vikings
Ryan Harris T Denver
Marc Bulger QB Baltimore
Paul Posluszny ILB Bills

Lower Tier
Steve Smith WR NYG- not sure we would get him but I want to drive the price up

TO- Regardless of if you love him or hate him he shut up and produced last year. If he can stay like that I'd take him here.

Alex Smith QB 49ers- I don't want grossman here and this kid could get his chance here warming the spot for dalton to develop if we don't get Bulger.

Alan Branch DE/ NT Cardinals: He is Young and was a hell of a player at Michigan project player

Joey Porter LB Cardinals- Can he be a big enough distraction on the field to free up Rak? Target if we miss out on Woodley

D’Qwell Jackson LB Cleveland- If we miss out on Paul, this kid has skills.

Resign
Jamall Brown
Santana Moss
Phillip Buchanon

Starting Lineup:

LT: T. Williams
LG : M Pouncey
C: Lichtensteiger
RG: M. Williams/ Hicks/ Montgomery (competition)
RT J.Brown/ R. Harris (Competition)

QB: Bulger or Smith/ Beck (comp) backup Dalton
RB: Torian, R.Williams, K. Williams (Platoon)
FB: M. Sellars * Sherman Taking over later in the year

X: S. Rice or TO backup Gates (Who decides to sign with us)
Y: A.Armstrong
Slot: S.Moss or Steve Smith backup T. Austin (Who decides to Sign with us)
TE: Cooley/ Davis

DE: Carriker
NT: P.Taylor/ Bryant/ A.Branch (competition)
DE: Golston/ Jarmon/ A.Branch (competition)

OLB: Porter or Woodley
ILB: Posluszny or Jackson
ILB: Fletcher
OLB: Rak

CB: Asomugha
CB: Hall
Slot: Buchanon
SS: Landry
FS: OJ

K: Gano
P: Bidwell or Paulescu (comp)
KR: Banks

record:
On paper that is a strong team against a weaker schedule. So I see good things.
Even on the off chance that there is no cap next year, there will be one in the future. It would be financially impossible to sign all those free agents. Besides, I doubt most of them would want to come here anyways. And growing up in NE and being so close to the patriots, yes you are nuts for thinking they would ever give up a second rounder to move from 17 to 10. Also Phil Taylor won't slip to 41.
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Old 03-28-2011, 12:39 PM   #8
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Draft:

1 Chas Henry, P
2 Alex Henery, K
5 Rob Housler, TE
5 Virgil Green, TE
6 Ryan Donohue, P
7 Josh Jasper, K
7 Preston Dial, TE
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Old 03-28-2011, 12:54 PM   #9
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Even on the off chance that there is no cap next year, there will be one in the future. It would be financially impossible to sign all those free agents. Besides, I doubt most of them would want to come here anyways. And growing up in NE and being so close to the patriots, yes you are nuts for thinking they would ever give up a second rounder to move from 17 to 10. Also Phil Taylor won't slip to 41.
I dissagree. If a player that NE really wants is there, you don't know what they would do. Plus they still have the 33rd pick in this scenario. As for the Free Agents I listed various targets depending on if we lose out on one vs the other. I don't want us to sign all of them. The Redskins are still a top place to go to because of the area and the fact that they are willing to pay. You seem to overvalueing Phil Taylor.
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Old 03-28-2011, 03:41 PM   #10
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I dissagree. If a player that NE really wants is there, you don't know what they would do. Plus they still have the 33rd pick in this scenario. As for the Free Agents I listed various targets depending on if we lose out on one vs the other. I don't want us to sign all of them. The Redskins are still a top place to go to because of the area and the fact that they are willing to pay. You seem to overvalueing Phil Taylor.
You are thinking the way you think, not the way they think. They do not overspend their early picks in an attempt to trade up. It is simply against their philosophy for building teams. Their philosophy is the exact opposite. Let other teams trade up to them and turn a penny into gold. I would be highly surprised if they even picked all their high picks this year. I would give 10-1 odds that they trade for future picks next year.

I don't think you have a very good grasp on the salary cap and how free agency works. We might be willing to pay, but so are other people. And I think you are undervaluing the importance of moving to a winning team for free agents. The amount that we would have to pay these guys would be extraordinary. It wouldn't even be financially possible to pick up 3 of them to the contracts that they will demand from us (keep in mind we already signed atogwe and will inevitably extend a few players currently on the roster).

Its not that I overvalue Phil Taylor, its the economics of the situation. There is too large a talent gap between him and the rest of the potential nose tackles. It only takes one team that is desperate enough for a nose tackle to pick him in the late first/early second. It also only takes one team (desperate or not) to fall in love with his potential. Odds are he will be gone by the first. And its all but certain he will be gone by the 41st pick.
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Old 03-28-2011, 02:43 PM   #11
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I'd start by trading Andray Blatche...
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1. Indentify a franchise QB in this draft.
2. Go get him!

I realize this team has many holes but until we solve the 20 year revolving door at QB everything else is just shuffling deck chairs on the titanic. Shanny is on the down side to 60...he's already in year 2 of his tenure...there is no time to wait another year to find his franchise QB. He needs to find him and start grooming him now.
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Old 03-28-2011, 07:36 PM   #13
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1. Indentify a franchise QB in this draft.
2. Go get him!

I realize this team has many holes but until we solve the 20 year revolving door at QB everything else is just shuffling deck chairs on the titanic. Shanny is on the down side to 60...he's already in year 2 of his tenure...there is no time to wait another year to find his franchise QB. He needs to find him and start grooming him now.
Most sense I've read in a while. I Agree.
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Old 03-28-2011, 04:45 PM   #14
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We wish Rogers wanted Atogwe money. He wants to paid like 5 Atogwe's
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We wish Rogers wanted Atogwe money. He wants to paid like 5 Atogwe's
he has kinda been screwed by us financially thus far, so why not. obviously not the same skill-wise but it's kinda like champ, but atleast we got something for champ.
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