Update: Evans Signs with Niners

[Monksdown]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

With Taylor gone, it makes sense to bring him back. And I guess he'd have been given assurances he'd start if brought back. So then you get Smith/Oher in the first round and Freeman in the 3rd.

That's where i would draw the line. I don't feel as an organization you should make guarantees regarding starting, being rotated in, or flat out sitting the bench. We pay you to do what we tell you to do, baring in mind all of the restrictions in place provided by the player's association.

Here's why in an example: We draft a young guy that really just blossoms by week 4. The coaches are going to feel obligated to continue to start Demetric because of his contract. Furthermore, most coaches try to instill a sense of competitiveness for all of the starting positions. It's good for morale, and it encourages effort.

I think it's flat out stupid to guarantee ANYONE a starting job in their contract.

[ChickenMonkey]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

With Taylor gone, it makes sense to bring him back. And I guess he'd have been given assurances he'd start if brought back. So then you get Smith/Oher in the first round and Freeman in the 3rd.

Sounds like someone else is on the same page w/me....
Freeman will make a good OLB,perfect pick in the 3rd

[SmootSmack]

Schefter says they've discussed a two-year deal in the $4 million range, but I can't tell if he means Evans and the Niners or Evans and the Redskins, or both?

[Defensewins]

I hope Evans decides to sign with the Skins.
It would be a huge improvement on goal line D and Short yardage D to line up Evans at one end and Daniels at the other and Haynesworth and Griffen at DT. That would be a tough line to run on. Sit Little Andre Carter down on the bench on obvious run plays.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I hope Evans decides to sign with the Skins.
It would be a huge improvement on goal line D and Short yardage D to line up Evans at one end and Daniels at the other and Haynesworth and Griffen at DT. That would be a tough line to run on. Sit Little Andre Carter down on the bench on obvious run plays.

You'd bring them both back? Why not just bring Evans back, and on goal line situations slide Haynesworth out and bring in Montgomery or Golston (even Alexander) as your second DT?

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You'd bring them both back? Why not just bring Evans back, and on goal line situations slide Haynesworth out and bring in Montgomery or Golston (even Alexander) as your second DT?

That is another good option, but you need depth at DE. I have always been in favor of keeping two pass rushers and two run stoppers at DE and sub them as needed. Due to Daniels injury last year we only had one run stopper Evans.

For true Goaline D you usually line up 3 DT's (Haynesworth, Griffen and Montgomery) and 2 DE's (Daniel and Evans).
For short yardage 4-3 I would lne up Griffen and Daniels at DT and Daniels and Evans at DE.
It would be tough run on those D-lines.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I hope Evans decides to sign with the Skins.
It would be a huge improvement on goal line D and Short yardage D to line up Evans at one end and Daniels at the other and Haynesworth and Griffen at DT. That would be a tough line to run on. Sit Little Andre Carter down on the bench on obvious run plays.

Carter is just flat better against the run than Evans though.

Although I will say in the Power Situations you speak of, that might not be the case.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Carter is just flat better against the run than Evans though.

Although I will say in the Power Situations you speak of, that might not be the case.

I respectfully disagree.
AC is a good player and a good pass rusher, he is very good in the open field. He is not good in tight spaces against the run, Which kind of makes him a little bit (not completely) one dimensional. Which is why we need a run stopper to sub in for him on occasions.
Did you see the Ravens game? The Ravens ran the off balance O-line and had a field day against AC. I also remember the replay of Jason Whitten knocking the snot out of AC on a run play during one of the Dallas games. I do not want my DE to man handled by a TE. Not good.
Flozzell Adams would push him around pretty good on a run play.

[MeanEvilSkin]

Further down in that link was a story that jake Grove signed with Miami. He would have been good to make a run at. Oh well...

[cobracai1]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Carter is just flat better against the run than Evans though.

Although I will say in the Power Situations you speak of, that might not be the case.

I completely agree. I think Carter is very underrated as a run stopper. Since his first season here, he has gradually become an all around end. I think because of his size its easy to say that he gets pushed around but I just havent seen that happen on a consistent basis since his first year here.

[Dirtbag59]

Demetric Evans = Ryan Clark in 2005 and this time I wouldn't count on a guy like Laron Landry falling to us to replace him. Then again good left ends are about as easy to find as safetys so it's not like we can't find anyone. Still would be nice to see if we could get Michael Johnson out of Georgia Tech in a trade down, assuming of course that he has the size to play LE, as we don't want another Jason Taylor type deal where we put a RE at LE.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Demetric Evans = Ryan Clark in 2005 and this time I wouldn't count on a guy like Laron Landry falling to us to replace him. Then again good left ends are about as easy to find as safetys so it's not like we can't find anyone. Still would be nice to see if we could get Michael Johnson out of Georgia Tech in a trade down, assuming of course that he has the size to play LE, as we don't want another Jason Taylor type deal where we put a RE at LE.

Give me Tyson Jackson over Johnson

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Give me Tyson Jackson over Johnson

Puh-leeze. Look at this collection of good plays, I mean highlight film. Interesting tidbit though, the announcer at one point says that in terms of frame Johnson reminds him of Calias Campbell so if that holds up Johnson definately has the frame to play LE in the NFL. You'll see that he lines up at LE in about 50% of the snaps in this video.



Then again Jackson did take down Tebow. I don't know both look pretty good but Johnson seems to have more potential as a Sack Artist

[Nflnick11]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Give me Tyson Jackson over Johnson

I don't want either but if i had to choose id take Jackson cause he can stop the run and is a younger philip daniels, but he's a slow pass rusher...johnsons gonna be a bust IMO

[SmootSmack]

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