Cooley Restructures

QBall · 02-14-2008, 03:38 PM

We do it every year. Seems like this year more and more star players want to do this because there is a feeling at Redskins Park we're contenders and very close to something special.

SO ALL THE DOOMSDAY SKINS FANS JUST SIT BACK AND WATCH

SBXVII · 02-14-2008, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by QBall

We do it every year. Seems like this year more and more star players want to do this because there is a feeling at Redskins Park we're contenders and very close to something special.

SO ALL THE DOOMSDAY SKINS FANS JUST SIT BACK AND WATCH

I'm not one of the doomsday guys, however I think we shall see if your theory is right...hopefully soon enough. If they can talk Springs in to helping out (because he refused last yr) then you can tell the future. lol.

BDBohnzie · 02-14-2008, 03:37 PM

Sweet. Net cap space of almost 8 million. Now we can sign Zack Thomas, since he's available now

Soup's Uncle · 02-14-2008, 03:48 PM

Yeah, Cooley is a big time team guy. And that's a positive about our evil owner. He's got so much frickin money, he doesn't mind shelling out all of this cash.

Monkeydad · 02-14-2008, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Soup's Uncle

Yeah, Cooley is a big time team guy. And that's a positive about our evil owner. He's got so much frickin money, he doesn't mind shelling out all of this cash.

That made no sense. Why is he evil? Because he's rich and good with money?

MTK · 02-14-2008, 04:00 PM

To the cap experts: With this latest restructure where do we now stand for cap room? Probably still in the red I'm guessing but getting a lot closer to the green.

CrazyCanuck · 02-14-2008, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

To the cap experts: With this latest restructure where do we now stand for cap room? Probably still in the red I'm guessing but getting a lot closer to the green.

I'd guess we are about $12M in the red right now. I haven't had time to update the cap sheets but I will try to soon.

CanadianSkin · 02-14-2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

To the cap experts: With this latest restructure where do we now stand for cap room? Probably still in the red I'm guessing but getting a lot closer to the green.

Not that I really care, but when looking at accounting terms, it is actually the black not green. I have no idea why and probably should not be correcting a mod, but decided to let you know anyway. Also I need more posts as I am still below 200.. lol.

GTripp0012 · 02-14-2008, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

To the cap experts: With this latest restructure where do we now stand for cap room? Probably still in the red I'm guessing but getting a lot closer to the green.

4 million ish in the red.

Has Todd Wade been released already?

Schneed10 · 02-14-2008, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

4 million ish in the red.

Has Todd Wade been released already?

No he's still on the books as of right now.

hooskins · 02-14-2008, 04:01 PM

We are around 8-12mil in the red right?

Longtimefan · 02-14-2008, 04:28 PM

What Cooley has done is typical of what many players have done on this team for several years, and we all appreciate it. It speaks volumes about the type players we have on the team who are willing to restructure, some on more than one ocasion.

SC Skins Fan · 02-14-2008, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

What Cooley has done is typical of what many players have done on this team for several years, and we all appreciate it. It speaks volumes about the type players we have on the team who are willing to restructure, some on more than one ocasion.

Like Dmek said, taking the guaranteed money is just good business sense. Everyone likes Cooley, but I'm not sure we should go sing the moral virtues of guys who are willing to take a check for $10 mil ... I think we'd all do that right? Not exactly a hardship, c'mon. The person you should feel sorry for is the drive thru teller who will have to deposit that thing ...

These aren't pay cuts (as they tried to get Springs to take last year) these are restructures and fancy accounting. Not saying its a bad thing, let's just not get too carried away about what the "volumes" it speaks about the players.

Longtimefan · 02-14-2008, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Like Dmek said, taking the guaranteed money is just good business sense. Everyone likes Cooley, but I'm not sure we should go sing the moral virtues of guys who are willing to take a check for $10 mil ... I think we'd all do that right? Not exactly a hardship, c'mon. The person you should feel sorry for is the drive thru teller who will have to deposit that thing ...

These aren't pay cuts (as they tried to get Springs to take last year) these are restructures and fancy accounting. Not saying its a bad thing, let's just not get too carried away about what the "volumes" it speaks about the players.

Not all players are willing to restructure period. It's mostly done upon request for the sole purpose of helping the teams cap situation. I realize it's not a pay cut, rather a good faith gesture and we appreciate that.

Schneed10 · 02-14-2008, 04:35 PM

Working off the familiar format I've been posting, note the moves that have already been made:

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Start: $20.4 million OVER cap

Potential Roster Cuts:
Phillip Daniels - $3.0 million saved
Mark Brunell - $3.4 million saved
Shawn Springs - $2.5 million saved
Pete Kendall - $1.8 million saved
Todd Wade - $700K saved
Total Savings for Cuts: $11.4 million

Keeping These Players, Restructuring 2008 Base Salary, Prorating over Remaining life of Contract:
Randy Thomas - $3.7 million saved - EXECUTED
Clinton Portis - $3.2 million saved
Jon Jansen - $3.2 million saved
Chris Samuels - $2.8 million saved
Cornelius Griffin - $2.6 million saved
Santana Moss - $1.9 million saved
Casey Rabach - $1.4 million saved
Total Salary Restructure Savings: $18.8 million

Keeping These Players, Restructuring 2008 Roster Bonuses, Prorating over Remaining life of Contract:
Ladell Betts - $1.7 million saved
Clinton Portis - $0.4 million saved
Chris Cooley - $9.2 million saved - EXECUTED
Andre Carter - $1.9 million saved - EXECUTED
Antwaan Randle-El - $1.2 million saved
Total Bonus Restructure Savings: $14.4 million

Restructures that I'm aware of consist of Randy Thomas, Andre Carter, and Chris Cooley. There could be others I'm not aware of. Cooley shaved $9.2 million alone.

My numbers above are not official, but they follow the same logic the Skins have used in the past. Carter and Thomas shaved nearly $6 million between them. Cooley shaved $9.2.

So we should be down $15.2 million from the $20.4 million we started at. This means we're still in the red by $5.2 million. PCinOZ's numbers would have us at $4.0 million over the cap after the Cooley restructure. So it's fair to say we're right around $4.0 - $5.2 million over the cap right now.

And you'll note there are plenty of moves listed above that don't have the word "EXECUTED" next to them, which means there are still plenty of ways to bring the cap number down. We're good to go.

02-14-2008, 03:38 PM	#1
QBall Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 351	Re: Cooley Restructures We do it every year. Seems like this year more and more star players want to do this because there is a feeling at Redskins Park we're contenders and very close to something special. SO ALL THE DOOMSDAY SKINS FANS JUST SIT BACK AND WATCH __________________ IT WAS THE TIME OF THE PREACHER.............IN THE YEAR OF 01'. NOW THAT THE LESSON IS OVER, THE KILLINGS BEGUN.......

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BDBohnzie Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Frederick, MD Age: 46 Posts: 4,628	Re: Cooley Restructures Sweet. Net cap space of almost 8 million. Now we can sign Zack Thomas, since he's available now __________________ Bad Things man, I mean bad things... “WE TOOK HIM IN THE SIXTH ROUND SO WE'RE NOT SMART EITHER.” - Shanny on what the Skins saw in Alfred Morris

02-14-2008, 03:48 PM	#4
Soup's Uncle Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Damascus, MD Posts: 354	Re: Cooley Restructures Yeah, Cooley is a big time team guy. And that's a positive about our evil owner. He's got so much frickin money, he doesn't mind shelling out all of this cash.

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Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: Cooley Restructures What Cooley has done is typical of what many players have done on this team for several years, and we all appreciate it. It speaks volumes about the type players we have on the team who are willing to restructure, some on more than one ocasion.

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