Spagnuolo stays with Giants!

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

I have been curious as to what fans reaction would have been to Fassel four years ago, when he was considered a strong candidate prior to Gibbs' return.

I remember when he was mentioned in 04 as a strong candidate. I actually didn't mind the choice at the time. YOu have to remember, he would've replaced spurrier, who was a disaster for this franchise. whereas, now he'll be replacing Gibbs. Tough act to follow.

I think Gibbs' influence on myself & other fans was so deep that it brought back our concept of who the redskins are, in that you could actually associate players & coaches w/the team again. Between 2000-2004, this team's identity was no identity, players & coaches came & went. In that climate, hiring Fassel, an ex-giant, would've not been a big deal. Now, we've actually tasted some continuity & feel like we have a team, so not hiring GW was viewed so negatively.

Like some others have posted, I believe that not hiring GW was the real reason behind the fan reaction more than anit-fassel feelings.

[Ade Jimoh Fan Club]

I don't have a link yet - but SYNDER IS NOW INTERVIEWING THE ADE FOR HEAD COACH.

So far, public support of this former Redskins superstar has been fantastic. Let's compare him against his competition:

1) Experience. The Ade was the most recent candidate to play in the league. He knows the players, the rules, and the tricks of the trade.

2) Nickname. The Ade edges out Mooch, Fossil, and Spags.

3) Player Impact. Everyone knows that coaches are WAY out of touch with the players these days. The Ade knows how to play all of the video games, knows all the rap songs and knows where all the good strip clubs are. He'll be there at 4AM to drive their drunk asses home so they don't get a DUI. Fossil? He'll be in bed by 9PM.

4) Asst. Coaches. All the other coaches are whining and moaning about how Synder already put the Assistant Coaches in place so they don't get to pick. The Ade could give a crap.

5) $$. The Ade is willing to be Head Coach for $50/season. The difference can be invested in a new Ferris Wheel at 6 flags.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I remember when he was mentioned in 04 as a strong candidate. I actually didn't mind the choice at the time. YOu have to remember, he would've replaced spurrier, who was a disaster for this franchise. whereas, now he'll be replacing Gibbs. Tough act to follow.

I think Gibbs' influence on myself & other fans was so deep that it brought back our concept of who the redskins are, in that you could actually associate players & coaches w/the team again. Between 2000-2004, this team's identity was no identity, players & coaches came & went. In that climate, hiring Fassel, an ex-giant, would've not been a big deal. Now, we've actually tasted some continuity & feel like we have a team, so not hiring GW was viewed so negatively.

Like some others have posted, I believe that not hiring GW was the real reason behind the fan reaction more than anit-fassel feelings.

I agree, and said the exact same thing in a previous post. When the list of coaches was compiled [notwithstanding the return of Gibbs] Jim Fassels' name was atop the list. The backlash directed towards Fassel I do not believe to be personal, but in retaliation to Williams not being given the job.

[skinzaholic73]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Why would you assume because this Spags guy is staying in NY, there goes our season? That makes absolutely NO sense IMO.

AMEN TO THAT!

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor

I don't have a link yet but ESPN radio just announced that Spags is returning to the Giants to be the defensive coordinator and signed a new three-year contract. Well there goes our season!

Let's avoid the hyperbole.

[MTK]

Schwartz has already extended with the Titans.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Schwartz has already extended with the Titans.

Fassel is the only one that makes sense now. Probably the only one that made sense from the time that they installed the staff (the Mariucci connections notwithstanding). I'd say, if you wanted to be fair about the whole thing, a Fassel hiring actually reflects well on Dan Snyder.

• Not the 'big splash' pick. Who knows what went down, but I'm going to say that if Snyder had really made the big push for Spagnuolo he probably could have gotten him here. Maybe it will be reported out differently, but as of this moment I'll give Snyder credit for avoiding the erge to jump on the hot assistant (an erge that the fan in me succumbed to) and - assuming that he wasn't just straight up spurred by Spagnuolo - actually shows a level of maturity that I have heretofore not given him credit for having.
• It is basically Fassel's staff that is in place, to bring someone else in very well could have proven problematic. Hiring Fassel would also allow them to at least say that hiring the staff was part of a larger plan (to bring in Fassel) rather than just some desire to throw the whole organization into flux for the sake of change. They can at least say that bringing in Spagnuolo was necessary to do their due dilligence, and perhaps to gather some information, but that Fassel was the plan all along barring something really unforseen.

In the end Fassel is the logical choice, given the course of events, and Snyder's ability to navigate the hype surrounding Spagnuolo when so many others couldn't, including myself, is a sign of growth. Barring something out of left field (and your next coach of the Washington Redskins ... Pete Carroll!) I'd say a Fassel hire actually redeems Snyder in my eyes at least. My sense is that the feeling has cooled considerably (another credit to Snyder) surrounding Fassel and that his hire won't cause that public outcry that it would have a couple of weeks ago. That being said, if anyone still feels compelled to give up their season tickets as a result, please let me know

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Fassel is the only one that makes sense now. Probably the only one that made sense from the time that they installed the staff (the Mariucci connections notwithstanding). I'd say, if you wanted to be fair about the whole thing, a Fassel hiring actually reflects well on Dan Snyder.

• Not the 'big splash' pick. Who knows what went down, but I'm going to say that if Snyder had really made the big push for Spagnuolo he probably could have gotten him here. Maybe it will be reported out differently, but as of this moment I'll give Snyder credit for avoiding the erge to jump on the hot assistant (an erge that the fan in me succumbed to) and - assuming that he wasn't just straight up spurred by Spagnuolo - actually shows a level of maturity that I have heretofore not given him credit for having.
• It is basically Fassel's staff that is in place, to bring someone else in very well could have proven problematic. Hiring Fassel would also allow them to at least say that hiring the staff was part of a larger plan (to bring in Fassel) rather than just some desire to throw the whole organization into flux for the sake of change. They can at least say that bringing in Spagnuolo was necessary to do their due dilligence, and perhaps to gather some information, but that Fassel was the plan all along barring something really unforseen.

In the end Fassel is the logical choice, given the course of events, and Snyder's ability to navigate the hype surrounding Spagnuolo when so many others couldn't, including myself, is a sign of growth. Barring something out of left field (and your next coach of the Washington Redskins ... Pete Carroll!) I'd say a Fassel hire actually redeems Snyder in my eyes at least. My sense is that the feeling has cooled considerably (another credit to Snyder) surrounding Fassel and that his hire won't cause that public outcry that it would have a couple of weeks ago. That being said, if anyone still feels compelled to give up their season tickets as a result, please let me know

Just stop, you're too rational.

Just to add I think we need to give some credit to Snyder and Cerrato. Initially Snyder said he was going to be patient and go through the process. There was a list of candidates, and they worked diligently through that list even though it meant waiting until the Super Bowl was over. Multiple candiates were interviewed multiple times. Yes they went about things a little strange by hiring the assistants first, but from all accounts the strongest candidates had rubber stamped the moves.

Fassel was very close to the job in 2004, so obviously there's already a good relationship there. I won't have a problem with hiring him at all. We seem to have a solid staff around him and that's really the most important part.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Fassel is the only one that makes sense now. Probably the only one that made sense from the time that they installed the staff (the Mariucci connections notwithstanding). I'd say, if you wanted to be fair about the whole thing, a Fassel hiring actually reflects well on Dan Snyder.

• Not the 'big splash' pick. Who knows what went down, but I'm going to say that if Snyder had really made the big push for Spagnuolo he probably could have gotten him here. Maybe it will be reported out differently, but as of this moment I'll give Snyder credit for avoiding the erge to jump on the hot assistant (an erge that the fan in me succumbed to) and - assuming that he wasn't just straight up spurred by Spagnuolo - actually shows a level of maturity that I have heretofore not given him credit for having.
• It is basically Fassel's staff that is in place, to bring someone else in very well could have proven problematic. Hiring Fassel would also allow them to at least say that hiring the staff was part of a larger plan (to bring in Fassel) rather than just some desire to throw the whole organization into flux for the sake of change. They can at least say that bringing in Spagnuolo was necessary to do their due dilligence, and perhaps to gather some information, but that Fassel was the plan all along barring something really unforseen.

In the end Fassel is the logical choice, given the course of events, and Snyder's ability to navigate the hype surrounding Spagnuolo when so many others couldn't, including myself, is a sign of growth. Barring something out of left field (and your next coach of the Washington Redskins ... Pete Carroll!) I'd say a Fassel hire actually redeems Snyder in my eyes at least. My sense is that the feeling has cooled considerably (another credit to Snyder) surrounding Fassel and that his hire won't cause that public outcry that it would have a couple of weeks ago. That being said, if anyone still feels compelled to give up their season tickets as a result, please let me know

I think you're too smart for this site.

[Skinny Tee]

Looks like we've got our man who won't mind being fired next year when Bill Cower becomes available.

Good luck on your job security Fassel. Hometown fans don't want you and Snyder covets a coach who is unavailable until next year. You're just the man for the job.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Looks like we've got our man who won't mind being fired next year when Bill Cower becomes available.

Good luck on your job security Fassel. Hometown fans don't want you and Snyder covets a coach who is unavailable until next year. You're just the man for the job.

I give Fassel a 60% chance of getting fired after this year. He's easily fireable. That's not a knock of JF, more of a knock on DS.

[mredskins]

IMO after week two of this season Spags was writting his ticket out of NY. So he got hot over the past six weeks and won the SB, that doesn't mean he is going to be a great HC or even a great DC. He had one great year. IMO I would rather have GW as a DC then Spags he has better record in the long run.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by mredskins

IMO after week two of this season Spags was writting his ticket out of NY. So he got hot over the past six weeks and won the SB, that doesn't mean he is going to be a great HC or even a great DC. He had one great year. IMO I would rather have GW as a DC then Spags he has better record in the long run.

His defense wasn't looking so good when Minn ran them over for 41 points. The Giants defense had some really really bad games. Yeah they got hot when it mattered most but I'd take Greg Williams over this guy anyday of the week. Glad your staying in NY.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

His defense wasn't looking so good when Minn ran them over for 41 points. The Giants defense had some really really bad games. Yeah they got hot when it mattered most but I'd take Greg Williams over this guy anyday of the week. Glad your staying in NY.

I'm inclined to agree, and sometimes we as fans only remember one's latest successes' or failures, and forget what happened in between. If I had to make a choice between Spagnuolo and Williams, it would be Williams by a landslide.

Let's see how much Spagnuolo will be in demand at the completion of his new three year deal in NY.

[GMScud]

I think it's funny when people say, "ohhh, the Giants had some awful games, Spags is overrated, their D really wasn't that good, ra ra ra." It was his first year w/ the Giants. He had to implement a new system, and as the season went on their D stepped up HUGE.

That said, I don't really think Spags ever had any intention of leaving the Giants this year anyway. They have a ton of young up and coming players on that team via excellent drafting, they just won a Super Bowl, Coughlin and the rest of the staff is staying intact... Why leave? IMO he interviewed w/ the Skins just to make sure the Giants opened up their wallet. And they did. He's now the highest paid coordinator in football.

If you just won a Super Bowl, have an excellent team coming back next year, and you can get head coach $$ as a coordinator, why leave?