Portis and Betts: Should We Just Stick With Portis?

Redskin Rich · 10-08-2007, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Yeah we've pretty much known this for a while now it's not really a secret.

All I know is when he's on the field he busts his ass and goes 110 mph whether it's running or blocking.

I have zero questions regarding his heart and I don't see what the big deal is if he takes himself out, Gibbs has let him do that from day one.

Yes, but the true great running backs don't do that... Either he has little heart, or he just is not in shape to been an everydown back.

However you slice that, means IMO he is overpaid.

skinsfan_nn · 10-08-2007, 09:42 AM

IMO if CP is healthy I would like to see him get 25+ carries per game, he is our #1 back. The more carries he gets, he gets into a nice groove.

With that said, lets stop fumbling the damn ball!

redsk1 · 10-08-2007, 09:57 AM

As mentioned before i think health concerns have a lot to do w/ it. In 2005 we ran portis to death. He can handle it when 100%. Its a long season and we have 2 great backs.

BleedBurgundy · 10-08-2007, 10:35 AM

The only reason we average 7 yards per pass attempt (assuming that's true, i didn't verify...), is because every D that plays us is focused on stopping the run. If we through all of the time, you'd see our ypc go up and our yppa go down.

SmootSmack · 10-08-2007, 11:12 AM

I feel like a broken record with this. Anyone who watches Portis on the field, especially when he's not carrying the ball-so when he's laying out a block, running a route, or chasing down a defender after a turnover, has no reason at all to question his heart. None.

SC Skins Fan · 10-08-2007, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I feel like a broken record with this. Anyone who watches Portis on the field, especially when he's not carrying the ball-so when he's laying out a block, running a route, or chasing down a defender after a turnover, has no reason at all to question his heart. None.

Best running back in the NFL when he doesn't have the ball in his hands (not saying he's not pretty good when he does have the ball in his hand).

SouperMeister · 10-08-2007, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I feel like a broken record with this. Anyone who watches Portis on the field, especially when he's not carrying the ball-so when he's laying out a block, running a route, or chasing down a defender after a turnover, has no reason at all to question his heart. None.

AMEN!!!

SmootSmack · 10-08-2007, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SouperMeister

AMEN!!!

Is Soup's Uncle actually your uncle?

RobH4413 · 10-08-2007, 12:39 PM

Until Portis is 100% healthy I don't really see this as a debate.

As far as getting better as the game wears on, sometimes it has to do with the mental aspect as well. Have you ever played sports and come out onto the field with some jitters? Than once the game has settled, you find your knack.

Also physically, if you're in the game longer your muscles aren't going to tighten up because your sitting on the sidelines. You stay loose, get into a rhythm, and perform better. I know this may vary from back to back, but I definitely think there is room for speculation here... but it may very well be a moot point.

The Zimmermans · 10-08-2007, 11:20 AM

With the two back system....portis has managed to play in every game this season.....much better than last year....I think things are working the way they are. Keep him fresh...cause when he is...he has all the tools.....betts will get better as the season progresses

hail_2_da_skins · 10-08-2007, 11:31 AM

I think the two back system is working. Portis is staying healthy and is productive. Betts, in my view, still runs the counter runs better than Portis and is a more reliable receiver. Portis is the big play threat. Portis and Betts makes one of the best two back combinations in the NFL. Keep it going.

12thMan · 10-08-2007, 11:32 AM

Like I said, I have no problem with the two back system. It's working fine. I'd just like to see Portis get about 5 to 10 more touches. Maybe not every game, just more often.

Redskins247 · 10-08-2007, 11:39 AM

Bottom line is this....we have 2 REALLY good running backs...Portis gives more of a burst and straight speed in the open, not to mention one HELL of a blocker...Betts is a good change of pace and a good solid backup...he's not gonna be the next Larry Johnson coming after Priest Holmes. Remember too guys, we only have Rabach and Samuels from last year...this IS a make-shift O-line! We still have a good running game which is contributing to Campbells development and the passing game improving.

skinsnut · 10-08-2007, 11:45 AM

I still say they put them both in at the same time.

BTW...anyone notice that they didn't have Betts running sweeps this week...THANK YOU Coach!

scowan · 10-08-2007, 11:45 AM

I don't think Portis has been 100% healthly all year, except for the first game. He has been nicked up a lot and that is probably why he is out of the game so much. I would like to see him get really healthy and then we might see his "break out" game.

10-08-2007, 09:42 AM	#2
skinsfan_nn Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Newport News,Virginia Age: 60 Posts: 4,495	Re: Portis and Betts: Should We Just Stick With Portis? IMO if CP is healthy I would like to see him get 25+ carries per game, he is our #1 back. The more carries he gets, he gets into a nice groove. With that said, lets stop fumbling the damn ball! __________________ "There's no greater feeling than moving a man from Point A to Point B, against his will." #68 THANKS COACH GIBBS FOR EVERYTHING! YOUR THE MAN AND ALWAYS WILL BE!

10-08-2007, 09:57 AM	#3
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: Portis and Betts: Should We Just Stick With Portis? As mentioned before i think health concerns have a lot to do w/ it. In 2005 we ran portis to death. He can handle it when 100%. Its a long season and we have 2 great backs.

10-08-2007, 10:35 AM	#4
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Re: Portis and Betts: Should We Just Stick With Portis? The only reason we average 7 yards per pass attempt (assuming that's true, i didn't verify...), is because every D that plays us is focused on stopping the run. If we through all of the time, you'd see our ypc go up and our yppa go down. __________________ "All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine

10-08-2007, 11:12 AM	#5
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Portis and Betts: Should We Just Stick With Portis? I feel like a broken record with this. Anyone who watches Portis on the field, especially when he's not carrying the ball-so when he's laying out a block, running a route, or chasing down a defender after a turnover, has no reason at all to question his heart. None. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-08-2007, 12:39 PM	#9
RobH4413 Wildcard Bitches Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bethesda, MD Age: 40 Posts: 2,638	Re: Portis and Betts: Should We Just Stick With Portis? Until Portis is 100% healthy I don't really see this as a debate. As far as getting better as the game wears on, sometimes it has to do with the mental aspect as well. Have you ever played sports and come out onto the field with some jitters? Than once the game has settled, you find your knack. Also physically, if you're in the game longer your muscles aren't going to tighten up because your sitting on the sidelines. You stay loose, get into a rhythm, and perform better. I know this may vary from back to back, but I definitely think there is room for speculation here... but it may very well be a moot point. __________________ This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

10-08-2007, 11:20 AM	#10
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 41 Posts: 937	Re: Portis and Betts: Should We Just Stick With Portis? With the two back system....portis has managed to play in every game this season.....much better than last year....I think things are working the way they are. Keep him fresh...cause when he is...he has all the tools.....betts will get better as the season progresses __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

10-08-2007, 11:31 AM	#11
hail_2_da_skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 69 Posts: 868	Re: Portis and Betts: Should We Just Stick With Portis? I think the two back system is working. Portis is staying healthy and is productive. Betts, in my view, still runs the counter runs better than Portis and is a more reliable receiver. Portis is the big play threat. Portis and Betts makes one of the best two back combinations in the NFL. Keep it going. __________________ "HAIL TO THE SKINS"

10-08-2007, 11:32 AM	#12
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Portis and Betts: Should We Just Stick With Portis? Like I said, I have no problem with the two back system. It's working fine. I'd just like to see Portis get about 5 to 10 more touches. Maybe not every game, just more often.

10-08-2007, 11:39 AM	#13
Redskins247 Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Raleigh NC Posts: 877	Re: Portis and Betts: Should We Just Stick With Portis? Bottom line is this....we have 2 REALLY good running backs...Portis gives more of a burst and straight speed in the open, not to mention one HELL of a blocker...Betts is a good change of pace and a good solid backup...he's not gonna be the next Larry Johnson coming after Priest Holmes. Remember too guys, we only have Rabach and Samuels from last year...this IS a make-shift O-line! We still have a good running game which is contributing to Campbells development and the passing game improving.

10-08-2007, 11:45 AM	#14
skinsnut Playmaker Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,975	Re: Portis and Betts: Should We Just Stick With Portis? I still say they put them both in at the same time. BTW...anyone notice that they didn't have Betts running sweeps this week...THANK YOU Coach! __________________ I hate Dallas...Period

10-08-2007, 11:45 AM	#15
scowan The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: KY Age: 56 Posts: 1,559	Re: Portis and Betts: Should We Just Stick With Portis? I don't think Portis has been 100% healthly all year, except for the first game. He has been nicked up a lot and that is probably why he is out of the game so much. I would like to see him get really healthy and then we might see his "break out" game.

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