Belichick Accused of Making Ted Johnson Play With Concussion

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Basically, who can you not make that claim about. Take all the great players on a particular team and they all suck. He should also get some credit (if not all) for having and developing Brady.
take away Montana, Dwight Clark, Roger Craig, etc, Bill Walsh is ??????????? who?

I didn't suggest that you should "take away" Brady, Seymour, Wilfork, Bruschi, Vrabel, and all of the Pats' stars and see how good Belichick would look. I suggested that Belichick might not look nearly as good without Brady.

One of the principal reasons why Joe Gibbs is special, at least in my mind, is that he won the Super Bowl 3 times with 3 different QBs. That accomplishment should not be underestimated. I highly doubt Belichick could have won 3 super bowls without Brady.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I didn't suggest that you should "take away" Brady, Seymour, Wilfork, Bruschi, Vrabel, and all of the Pats' stars and see how good Belichick would look. I suggested that Belichick might not look nearly as good without Brady.

One of the principal reasons why Joe Gibbs is special, at least in my mind, is that he won the Super Bowl 3 times with 3 different QBs. That accomplishment should not be underestimated. I highly doubt Belichick could have won 3 super bowls without Brady.

And 3 different RBs and 3 different kickers and I think 3 different punters as well.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I didn't suggest that you should "take away" Brady, Seymour, Wilfork, Bruschi, Vrabel, and all of the Pats' stars and see how good Belichick would look. I suggested that Belichick might not look nearly as good without Brady.

One of the principal reasons why Joe Gibbs is special, at least in my mind, is that he won the Super Bowl 3 times with 3 different QBs. That accomplishment should not be underestimated. I highly doubt Belichick could have won 3 super bowls without Brady.

Yes I agree that what gibbs did was tough but he also had a line which made the QB look better.

[ncskinsfanec]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Yes I agree that what gibbs did was tough but he also had a line which made the QB look better.

The Patriots haven't had a good line? I know they're not the Hogs, but they've been no pushovers either.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by ncskinsfanec

The Patriots haven't had a good line? I know they're not the Hogs, but they've been no pushovers either.

Of course they have had a good line. You don't win one SuperBowl let alone 3 in 4 years without continuity, consistency and performance.

This may piss some people off but their line was better than the Hogs. The Hogs never won 2 out of 4 let alone 3 out of four.

[SmootSmack]

I know really. Give a coach Mark Rypien, or Timmy Smith and let's see if that guy can win anything....oh wait.

[hooskins]

At least he didn't make him play with a cussion.

[Big C]

i could see belichek doing that. whether or not he did it, he has still shown his true colors this season, most apparent with the deal with mangini. the guys an ass

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Big C

i could see belichek doing that. whether or not he did it, he has still shown his true colors this season, most apparent with the deal with mangini. the guys an ass

Not only did Belichick act like an ass at midfield with Mangini, he also made less than glowing remarks about him the press implying that Mangini was not necessarily fit to be a head coach. We're now seeing what reporters in the Boston area have known for quite some time - Belichick is an royal a-hole.

[Pocket$ $traight]

After the kickoff to the Super Bowl this will be all forgotten and next year stupid Boomer and all of the other Belichek worshippers will continue their worship of him.

[The Huddle]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

After the kickoff to the Super Bowl this will be all forgotten and next year stupid Boomer and all of the other Belichek worshippers will continue their worship of him.

I don't think they "worship" Belichick, but they do talk about him a lot because the Patriots are one of the league's most successful teams.
The people who run ESPN aren't stupid. They know full well that talking about winners generates more interest than talking about losers.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by The Huddle

I don't think they "worship" Belichick, but they do talk about him a lot because the Patriots are one of the league's most successful teams.
The people who run ESPN aren't stupid. They know full well that talking about winners generates more interest than talking about losers.

Boomer wore a Belichek cutoff sweatshirt before the AFC Championship game.

I know it is funny, but it annoyed me. I am glad the Patriots system of dropping every guy who wants a reasonable contract was exposed this year. I would love to see Brady hold out since he specifically signed a less lucrative contract so they could keep the team intact.

[The Huddle]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Boomer wore a Belichek cutoff sweatshirt before the AFC Championship game.

I know it is funny, but it annoyed me. I am glad the Patriots system of dropping every guy who wants a reasonable contract was exposed this year. I would love to see Brady hold out since he specifically signed a less lucrative contract so they could keep the team intact.

I don't know that I'd say they were "exposed". A fourth AFC title appearance in six years isn't too shabby. Would they have been in the Super Bowl without some of those defections? It's impossible to say.

Whatever one might think of the New England system, it has certainly produced more victories the last three years than the Gibbs II approach.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by firstdown

It will be interesting to see how much this guy sues the team for because we know that where this is going. I just have a hard time believing that Belichick would force a guy to play after the Teams trainer said not to. If he did I'm sure we will hear from other former Pat players as this unfolds. If he is successful in sueing it could really change how teams do things.

ESPN.com - NFL - Ex-Pats LB: Belichick made me play with concussion

Lawsuit waiting to happen. Or perhaps Kraft will settle it out of court.

[MTK]

Regardless of how many rings they won, I think the 1991 Hogs have to be considered one of the best lines in the history of the game. There were games where Rypien wasn't even breathed on.