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View Poll Results: Vikings loss: bigger disappointment?
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Old 09-11-2006, 10:48 PM   #1
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Re: Bigger disappointment?

We lost this game in the trenches. On both sides of the ball, really. But more so on defense. Griffin and Salave'a were dominated by Hutchinson and Birk. We didn't hear our DTs' names called all night long.

Not enough people gave enough credit to the Vikings going into this game. That line is fierce. Griffin and Salave'a couldn't hold up at the point of attack. In the beginning of the game the LBs were filling well enough to make up for it and keep Chester Taylor mostly in check. But as the game wore on, we got tired and got pounded as the Vikes marched down and made it 19-16.

Coverage was a pretty big problem too. We got lucky that Troy Williamson didn't burn us for 150 receiving yards. He dropped a lot of balls where he was wide open.
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Old 09-11-2006, 11:06 PM   #2
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Re: Bigger disappointment?

I just got back from the bar.... it was a good game... not lopsided or anything but the defense shouldn't have given up those two TDs...I'm pretty drunk so what do I know...lol
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Old 09-11-2006, 11:20 PM   #3
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The defense was bad. Almost no pressure on Johnson. Mostly though our corners looked pretty bad. Had Williamson actually caught a few more it could have been worse. The vikes have a better team than i thought. It was a tough game but we good teams pull these out.

Offensively, we did ok. We left a lot of points out there by kicking fg's intead of td's.
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Old 09-11-2006, 11:21 PM   #4
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Re: Bigger disappointment?

I know he's not a game changer, but our secondary suffered a bad loss when Prioleau went out without being touched during the opening kick-off. When stuff like that happens, you know its not going to be your day.

What was Cartwright doing returning kickoffs? Please put John Hall out of his misery and cut him - its become painful to watch. I'm actually excited about our offense though.

Prediction. TO and co will eat us alive next week, and we'll be 0-2 before recovering to win some games. Beyond that, its too early to say, though I can see losses to the Colts, Jacksonville, and one apiece to the Cowboys, G-men and Eagles.
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Old 09-11-2006, 11:21 PM   #5
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I put that loss on the defense. The offense made it into the red zone 4 times and within scoring range another. You can't let a team off of their own goal line (bad penalty notwithstanding) ever. You can't let a team convert 53% on 3rd down. You can't let Brad Johnson, Troy Williamson, Chester Taylor and Travis Taylor make big plays on you, ever. Especially at home. I'd hate to be in practice Wednesday if I was on Williams D but he needs to do 40 up-downs himself for that vanilla defense he called..
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Old 09-12-2006, 09:33 AM   #6
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I put that loss on the defense. The offense made it into the red zone 4 times and within scoring range another. You can't let a team off of their own goal line (bad penalty notwithstanding) ever. You can't let a team convert 53% on 3rd down. You can't let Brad Johnson, Troy Williamson, Chester Taylor and Travis Taylor make big plays on you, ever. Especially at home. I'd hate to be in practice Wednesday if I was on Williams D but he needs to do 40 up-downs himself for that vanilla defense he called..
Wait, I don't understand how you put the loss on the defense and proceed to point out how the offense scored just 1 touchdown in 4 trips to the red zone. The defense definately needs improvement, but I would think you'd expect more than 16 points out of a Saunders, Portis, Moss, ARE, Cooley, Lloyd offense playing at home.
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Old 09-11-2006, 11:31 PM   #7
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Re: Bigger disappointment?

easily the defense. they allowed our offense to have the ball so few times it was rediculous. every vikings drive milked the clock, this defense was supposed to be top 5, it looked nowhere near that against what wasnt supposed to be a great offense of the vikings. the offense didnt do too bad, they just didnt get many chances
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Old 09-11-2006, 11:49 PM   #8
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Re: Bigger disappointment?

I think defense played better, but was the bigger dissapointement. I had questions about the offense to begin with, holy crap, i'm so upset right now just got back to my hotel from teh game.
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Old 09-12-2006, 12:21 AM   #9
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Someone please tell me where Cooley was! I broke out my brand new Cooley jeresy that I got for my birthday and by the end of the game the guys were yelling at me to take it off and go get my Moss back from home.
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Old 09-12-2006, 01:23 AM   #10
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Jeez, the defense sucked! Could not cover anyone. All those 3rd down conversions allowed. Carlos Rogers, my goodness, he couldn't cover anyone and gave up to many big gains and the touchdown pass - looked like a fool on that play. Also, Andre Carter, did he play tonight? I don't think he touched Brad Johnson at all. I hope they turn things around real quick or there not going to win many games.
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Old 09-12-2006, 02:33 AM   #11
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D-line was huge dissapointment tonight. Carlos had a couple opportunities to step up and make a play, but he did not. Look back for the ball, and on the pass defended i thought he could have gotten both hands up and made the pick easily. Guess he has lost some confidence. Looks like our secondary is confused with some coverages. And another thought,(and just a thought) with Arch's preseason performance, i dont think GW has confidence in his coverage ability just yet. He is keeping Sean back and letting Arch run support. Hmmm. We need Sean up there, and Pearson's Injury may cost us a few more poor performances.
As far as offense goes, to be HONEST, i was quite pleased. Sure Brunell had a few throw aways, but come on people, close game = field position. I am SO relieved about our offense. I know we dont really have a few weeks, but if we can get to week 6 at 2-3 or 3-2 I believe the offense will start ROLLIN. HAIL SKINS, WEEK 1, NEW OFFENSIVE SYSTEM, sorry guys, I'm still liking this team!!!!!
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Old 09-12-2006, 06:52 AM   #12
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Like Wilbon said in today's paper, if you told me the skins only score 16 points I still say they win. The D just had no urgency. Minn wanted it more than the skins did.
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Old 09-12-2006, 08:49 AM   #13
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Re: Bigger disappointment?

Biggest disappointment is reading this about our placekicker at the game's most critical point:

"I didn't think I was going on yet," Hall said. "I didn't really know what was happening."
Coaches motioned Hall onto the field and, as he jogged onto the grass, he tried to sort out the details of the game. He thought it was third down, not fourth. He felt unsure exactly how much time remained. He stepped behind holder Derrick Frost and cleared his mind. He felt he was ready. Then he booted the ball -- "It felt clean," he said -- and watched it sail left.
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Old 09-15-2006, 12:11 AM   #14
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Re: Bigger disappointment?

The defense was a big disappointment. However we have 6 new people on the defense. I think the defense will come along. Remember we were one dropped pass and one bad penalty away from a victory. Evan then if ARE makes the first down on the last drive we still win.

The offense look better than it did in the preseason but what happened to Betts. It looked like he lost a step to me. He was always one step from breaking. I liked the sweep play but I don’t understand why we keep running it with Betts. Why didn’t we run it more with Portis?

Also where was Cooley, Patten, or Lloyd? I don’t remember Brunell even throwing to Patten.
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Old 09-11-2006, 11:52 PM   #15
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The truth is Hutchinson manhandled Griffin and Salave'a...I was horrified man, horrified how bad they performed.
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