Giants post season ending loss thread

[AnonEmouse]

Can't help thinking that the difference yesterday was again the lack of a stud TE. Give the QB a big body target to look for when under pressure rather than short RB's out of the backfield all the time.

[Chico23231]

Please focus on Oline, TE and QB.

I listened to game driving and watched bits and pieces on redzone. The incompetent play is concerning

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Please focus on Oline, TE and QB.



I listened to game driving and watched bits and pieces on redzone. The incompetent play is concerning

MLB and secondary would be good too. K isn’t something we dont need. Its actually easier to point out what we do not need. Punter, WR, and Dline. Though you could still make the case for another wr. That is always a true test of how far along you are as a team. We literally have more holes unfilled than filled. We are probably still at least two years away and that is if somehow we can reverse our trend of offseason miscues.


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[MTK]

They are who we thought they were.

Top 5 pick bring it on.

[skinsfaninok]

If we had to do it all over again, I'd still say Tua over CY. As much as I love Young, and the impact he has had is very good, the offense lacks QB production so bad. Cam Sims proved yesterday he can be a great weapon as well if he actually gets the fucking ball.

[SunnySide]

I only got to watch the first quarter listened to the rest on radio. How did the giants offense win the LOS? We have top end players across the DL and they have to start impacting games more.

Is it linebackers not filling the holes? The secondary seems to be at least average.

2-6 and losing to some bad teams in the process.

This DL and 4th ranked D entering this game have to impact games. I don’t think we forced one turnover from turnover prone Daniel Jones.

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Looking at the box score

0s and 1s - lots of 0s and 1s on chase and Montez stat line
325 passing yards for Alex. Did he look like step up from Allen sans the ints?
166 rushing yards for giants at over 4 yards per carry
5 sacks for skins
2 sacks giants

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

I only got to watch the first quarter listened to the rest on radio. How did the giants offense win the LOS? We have top end players across the DL and they have to start impacting games more.

Is it linebackers not filling the holes? The secondary seems to be at least average.

2-6 and losing to some bad teams in the process.

This DL and 4th ranked D entering this game have to impact games. I don’t think we forced one turnover from turnover prone Daniel Jones.

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Looking at the box score

0s and 1s - lots of 0s and 1s on chase and Montez stat line
325 passing yards for Alex. Did he look like step up from Allen sans the ints?
166 rushing yards for giants at over 4 yards per carry
5 sacks for skins
2 sacks giants

Defense was bad yesterday, no other way around it.. We can't stop the run at all on 3& short. This amazing DL is just average folks, sorry but the numbers don't lie.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Defense was bad yesterday, no other way around it.. We can't stop the run at all on 3& short. This amazing DL is just average folks, sorry but the numbers don't lie.

I like all the players individually, they are all very good players but in hindsight we should have spread those 1 st round picks around. We have very capable guys like settle getting unused who could very well bring equivalent production.

Just bad allocation of resources but ... if you are going to go heavy somewhere I’d want it to be the DL.

Idk I’m rambling ... same rambles for a year plus now.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

I like all the players individually, they are all very good players but in hindsight we should have spread those 1 st round picks around. We have very capable guys like settle getting unused who could very well bring equivalent production.

Just bad allocation of resources but ... if you are going to go heavy somewhere I’d want it to be the DL.

Idk I’m rambling ... same rambles for a year plus now.

Settle did have a sack yesterday, he's making the most of his limited PT.

And with our injury luck I'm happy having reserves like Kerrigan and Settle, I feel like we shouldn't take it for granted that if something happens to one of our starters we can have a quality backup come in.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Defense was bad yesterday, no other way around it.. We can't stop the run at all on 3& short. This amazing DL is just average folks, sorry but the numbers don't lie.

Defense was not bad. After five turnovers they allowed 23 points. Show me an example like that anywhere else.

One big play due to rookie K Curl blowing his assignment. Five sacks, forced two fumbles, got plenty of pressure when the ball wasn't out in 1.5 seconds. D Jones averaged like 6 yards a pass play...They were a inconsistent against the run, but it didn't hurt them. Can't put this one on the D.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Defense was not bad. After five turnovers they allowed 23 points. Show me an example like that anywhere else.

One big play due to rookie K Curl blowing his assignment. Five sacks, forced two fumbles, got plenty of pressure when the ball wasn't out in 1.5 seconds. D Jones averaged like 6 yards a pass play...They were a inconsistent against the run, but it didn't hurt them. Can't put this one on the D.

The turnovers killed us no doubt but how many 3rd downs did the Giants convert? Not blaming just the Defense but overall they were not that good.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

The turnovers killed us no doubt but how many 3rd downs did the Giants convert? Not blaming just the Defense but overall they were not that good.

40% on 3rd down (6/15) - below average for the NFL.

[MTK]

Pressure was there from the D they just didn't close with sacks (15 pressures I believe, 5 sacks but should have been plenty more). Jones fumbled twice but they recovered them.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by MTK

Pressure was there from the D they just didn't close with sacks (15 pressures I believe). Jones fumbled twice but they recovered them.

But did it impact the game though?

QB pressure is great but we’re our guys leaving gaps to try and get a sack vs playing the run on the way to the QB?

166 rushing yards is not a good performance for this all first round DL.

They need to dominate in run and pass. 5 freaking first round picks. They need to do better than almost get there.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

But did it impact the game though?

QB pressure is great but we’re our guys leaving gaps to try and get a sack vs playing the run on the way to the QB?

166 rushing yards is not a good performance for this all first round DL.

They need to dominate in run and pass. 5 freaking first round picks. They need to do better than almost get there.

Sweat has been our best player and it's due to Young's presence but Allen and Payne are both always inconsistent