|
08-22-2012, 07:23 AM | #1 | |
Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Virginia
Posts: 7,766
|
Re: Around the NFL Preseason week 3
Quote:
Or it could just be the new owner is setting a principal that he won't be bullied into a hold out that wants more money when he's already got a contract he should live up to first then get the big dollars. |
|
08-22-2012, 07:52 AM | #2 | |
Living Legend
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 17,143
|
Re: Around the NFL Preseason week 3
Quote:
|
|
08-22-2012, 01:09 AM | #3 |
Special Teams
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Sacramento, CA
Age: 41
Posts: 232
|
Re: Around the NFL Preseason week 3
I love Jones-Drew. Absolutely love him. BUT...
You sign a contract extension in 09. It makes you one of the highest-paid RBs in the league. Negotiate something else in the first place or honor the contract. |
08-22-2012, 01:20 AM | #4 | |
Living Legend
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 22,221
|
Re: Around the NFL Preseason week 3
Quote:
Last season, when MJD led the league in rushing, he was the 9th highest paid RB in the league behind CJ, Peterson, Jackson, DMC, DeAngelo Williams, Michael Turner, Arian Foster, and Reggie Bush. He might be 10th after Rice signed his contract. If the Jags don't want to pay him, they should trade him.
__________________
R.I.P. #21 |
|
08-22-2012, 08:29 AM | #5 |
Warpath Hall of Fame
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: UNITED STATES
Age: 37
Posts: 35,999
|
Bottom line is MJD signed his contract a couple years back and is making like 5 million a year. Sorry but if anyone here was or is under contract at work and "held out " for more money, your bosses would laugh at u and say goodbye. He's a great player but He's not bigger than the jags organization, they can move on w out him. The NFL isn't The NBA, it's not a player league it's a TEAM league.
__________________
“Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban |
08-22-2012, 08:37 AM | #6 | |
The Starter
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,066
|
Re: Around the NFL Preseason week 3
Quote:
|
|
08-22-2012, 10:08 AM | #7 | |
You did WHAT?!?
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna.
Age: 35
Posts: 14,143
|
Re: Around the NFL Preseason week 3
Quote:
__________________
https://open.spotify.com/artist/1NG9zNxqMP8cYNP72QqUQT Shameless self-promotion. It is what it is. |
|
08-22-2012, 12:19 PM | #8 | |
Living Legend
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 17,143
|
Re: Around the NFL Preseason week 3
Quote:
|
|
08-22-2012, 08:36 AM | #9 |
Warpath Hall of Fame
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 33,992
|
Re: Around the NFL Preseason week 3
Jags should just sit and say nothing. They shouldnt entertain any trade offers. MJD will break, he's not gonna sit out the entire year. They are in a rebuilding process anyways, not like they are pushing for the playoffs. eff MJD
__________________
My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us |
08-22-2012, 09:36 AM | #10 |
The Starter
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,993
|
Re: Around the NFL Preseason week 3
I can appreciate the integrity of the players contract. If you sign a contract, you see it through. MJD signed a contract, so he should play that contract. Makes sense.
As for the "one-year" wonder argument. That if a player has one good year, he should hold out for a new contract. There's a bit more to that than what is on the surface. The answer for the most part is NO, that should not be allowed to happen (ala DeSean Jackson) MJD led the league in rushing last season. But he also led the league in rushing attempts. And he also led his team in receptions. He averages over 8 receipts per game. And he averages over 21 rushes per game. That is almost 30 offensive touches per game, on a team that averaged a little over 60 offensive plays from scrimmage per game in 2011. Yeah, MJD LITERALLY represents 50% of the Jags total offense. He gets more touches than any player in the league. That equates to more chances of injury than any other player in the league. There was a new CBA signed last year. MJD's current contract was signed under the old CBA. MJD wants to get paid..PERIOD. He wants (and based on what he brings to his team, probably deserves) GUARANTEED money. All the Jags have to do is sign him to an extension with an exceptable amount of guaranteed money, and MJD will play. With more touches than most players in the league, it only takes one hit to end a season or worse a career. Again, I appreciate the integrity of a contract. You signed it, play it, see it through. And for the first time I can recall, I am actually on the side of the player on this one. |
08-22-2012, 10:09 AM | #11 | |
Gamebreaker
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 14,258
|
Re: Around the NFL Preseason week 3
Quote:
SO why don't you have that same mentality with the owners? They sign a player to a contract but are allowed to cut them at anytime without owing them the full contract. That street goes both ways. Either players should be allowed to hold out, or owners need to guarantee their full contracts. Owners should not have all the leverage. Not sure why the NFLPA didn't do more in the lockout to combat this. NBA contracts allow some of them to "opt out", which is really something I expected to see in the NFL.
__________________
"So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty |
|
08-22-2012, 10:11 AM | #12 | |
You did WHAT?!?
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna.
Age: 35
Posts: 14,143
|
Re: Around the NFL Preseason week 3
Quote:
__________________
https://open.spotify.com/artist/1NG9zNxqMP8cYNP72QqUQT Shameless self-promotion. It is what it is. |
|
08-22-2012, 10:44 AM | #13 | |
The Starter
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,993
|
Re: Around the NFL Preseason week 3
Quote:
That's why they meet in the middle. Where they can get a portion of that contract guaranteed.. And since we as fans don't necessarily get to see every little detail in a players contract, we have no way of knowing what they are owed. All we here is what ESPN tells us. "Player A signed a 5 year deal with Team B worth 15 million". Thats all we get to see. Does that mean since the contract could be worth 15 million, that if the player is released he should get all 15? We don't know how much of that 15 million is wrapped around incentives, or participation, or workout bonuses etc. I agree with you in that common sense tells us that a contract is a contract is a contact and should be honored by both parties involved. All I am saying is that a certain amount of a players contract should be guaranteed. |
|
08-22-2012, 11:00 AM | #14 | |
You did WHAT?!?
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna.
Age: 35
Posts: 14,143
|
Re: Around the NFL Preseason week 3
Quote:
Is refusing to even negotiate an extension meeting in the middle though?
__________________
https://open.spotify.com/artist/1NG9zNxqMP8cYNP72QqUQT Shameless self-promotion. It is what it is. |
|
08-22-2012, 11:35 AM | #15 | |
The Starter
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,993
|
Re: Around the NFL Preseason week 3
Quote:
Hold out lasts throughout training camp and preseason. The two parties get together the day after the final preseason game and they reach a compromise of some sort. And I think a lot of it will be the Jags waiving a majority if not all of the fines MJD has incurred wince his holdout started. Same story, different team, different player, different year. And some player on a team will pull this next year as well. Mark that down. And the outcome will mostly likely be the same. MJD saw that contract extension that Forte landed with the Bears this year. Forte gets something in the neighborhood of 17 M GUARANTEED. That is what MJD is looking at. He does not have that type of guarantee. Last edited by sandtrapjack; 08-22-2012 at 11:41 AM. |
|
|
|