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Re: A Look Back at the 2008 RB Class
Andrew Brandt on Sirius with Ross Tucker laid out the Bears thinking, and points out that if the players didn't want this to keep happening then they should have pitched harder for changes at CBA ratification time:
Bottomline, if the Bears franchise tag Forte for the next two years, the Guaranteed money still is less than what Forte is asking for as a guaranteed long term contract. Further, if they go the franchise tag route, and something happens to Forte next year, they don't have to pay the next year at a guaranteed rate. Is it a cheapskate way, yes, but especially for a RB, it gives them 2 more solid years of him under their contract rights, without committing long term resources to him. I am surprised that the players union didn't wring some concessions on FT out of the owners, at least limiting it to a 1 year use, or some sort of step down system, ie 1 FT, then 1 Transition tag, then RFA. |
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Re: A Look Back at the 2008 RB Class
Forte is on track to have a Marshall Faulk like season. Something like 1,400 rushing yards and a 1,000 receiving yards. PAY THE MAN!
Forte on pace for amazing accomplishment
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Re: A Look Back at the 2008 RB Class
Forte deserves the raise but he plays for the cheap ass Bears. I see this dragging out. But pretty bad that the guy is make 600k. At the very least they should've torn up that contract and given him a few million in good faith.
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Re: A Look Back at the 2008 RB Class
well maybe some, not here for sure
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Re: A Look Back at the 2008 RB Class
Agreed, and RBs, unfortunately for them, are a bargain on their rookie deals. The new CBA didn't help them, as that's one position that can make an impact immediately. If re-signing a RB it makes sense if they're about 25 or under & they sign for 4-5 years max.
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Re: A Look Back at the 2008 RB Class
We're only a small segment of the thousands or millions of Redskins fans throughout the nation. I doubt most are hardcore analysts like folks here and on other message boards.
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Re: A Look Back at the 2008 RB Class
regardless, like you said we didnt need a RB we had Tortis. Hell we didnt need betts or rock, just him on the roster was fine.
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Re: A Look Back at the 2008 RB Class
You don't have to pay him $80M, just pay him fair market value. He's way underpaid right now. He's 25, now is the time to lock him up for a few years.
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Re: A Look Back at the 2008 RB Class
Yes and played him at RB. Ironically enough he was better as a runner then as a receiver.
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Re: A Look Back at the 2008 RB Class
If you didn't get the message of the blatant sarcasm behind my initial post of "But we had Clinton Portis", you are helpless. Nor does your second statement make any sense since I never implied it., The rationale I am mocking that most fans operate under "starters are filled, thus depth can be filled by anyone", NOT "we got a starter, depth is unnecessary". Just like I was the one who posted a thread about the WaPo article about Snyder hunting for Shanahan, I was one of the critics of Clinton Portis on this board.
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Re: A Look Back at the 2008 RB Class
They are being cheap IMO, what hAPPENS if he gets hurt this week and they use that as an excuse not too.. I mean cmon
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Re: A Look Back at the 2008 RB Class
Exactly. There's managing the cap and then theres the Bears.
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Re: A Look Back at the 2008 RB Class
And they wonder why Bears players openly grumble against management.
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Re: A Look Back at the 2008 RB Class
So it sounds like Forte will be demanding a trade and sitting out next season.
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