Cooley Drops Bomb on Haynesworth

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

That part is true. But Haynesworth deserves to be excoriated for doing such a morally bankrupt thing.

You do realize, Chico, that he stole from us, the Redskins fans, too, don't you? What he did caused great harm to the organization which set the team back on the field. He stole our Sunday afternoons. How do you feel about this man stealing from you?

Hey im pissed about it and hate the dude, but damn it I more pissed about how this organization was run for 10 years. Danny and Vinny stole from me for 10 effing years with their mismanagement. It was a circus.

[Chico23231]

One of the reasons I joined this board back in the day was my friends were sick of me bitching to them about the skins, i needed an outlet. You see that commercial about Ramsey, the out of control dude watching the game, that was me. Except more violent I think. I was sick of it. Haynesworth was the last.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Hey im pissed about it and hate the dude, but damn it I more pissed about how this organization was run for 10 years. Danny and Vinny stole from me for 10 effing years with their mismanagement. It was a circus.

They weren't stealing because they were trying. They were just incompetent.

Only the other hand, Haynesworth deceived the Redskins management into believing that he would help them win while he apparently had no intention of giving an honest effort to do so.

[DynamiteRave]

To me this whole story is meh and I kinda side with Chico on this.

I would want to crucify the guy if he came in like... on an RG3, clean nose, angelic kinda level and then all of a sudden went rogue.

Management knew who Haynesworth was both as a man and as a player (or lack thereof) and still signed him to an enormous contract in spite of that.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

AH would have done this anywhere he went, regardless if it was the Redskins or another team. He clearly was not interested in playing football, he just wanted to get paid.

Very true,but we fell for it.There were a lot of warning signs with Haynesworth that the skins overlooked.The football sportswriter here in houston,Ultimate Texans » John McClain
was adamant before we signed Haynesworth that anybody who signed him was gonna regret it,that it was all about the mnoey

Water under the bridge now,;hopefully skins have learned a lesson

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

for taking the money and advantage of the situation. if that was his plan going in. We set ourselves up by developing a culture of paying players well over their ability. Its no secret agents sought out rediculous contracts from us because we were fools. I think Haynesworth is a pos no doubt

Any player could do this to any team after signing a contract. Personally I would thank that Snyder would have a case to sue AH for a breach of contract.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Yeah maybe, but we were the fools to give him the money. Very dumb, thank god we have reversed that culture here. Shanny and Bruce have done an excellent job in that department.

If he didn't get paid here it would have been elsewhere and he would have pulled the same crap. Skins weren't the only team in the running. Yeah it sucks it ended up being our mistake, but it doesn't change the fact the guy is a bum of epic proportion.

[htownskinfan]

I dont want to call Cooley a liar,but why the hell would Haynesworth tell his team mates this?
And from what I remember 90% of the people on this forum thought Haynesworth played pretty damn good his first year here

[JoeRedskin]

Sure management at the time was idiotic. Trust me, I get that - the thought of VC makes me wretch. So, yeah, they got taken advantage of b/c they were stupid. Stupider than most others at the time.

Regardless, it's the old adage - two wrongs don't make a right. Sure, given the culture he created, VC got exactly what he deserved - a douche ball, classless, a-hole who was only interested in "show me the money".

That, however, doesn't change the fact that Haynesworth was a douche ball, classless, a-hole.

[htownskinfan]

I think we can all agree A.H. was a douche.But looking at his stats on his first yr here,they are in line with every other season AH had to that point.
2nd yr,Shanny comes in ,switches to 3-4,pisses off AH,things go downhill fast from there
How much of it was contract,the switch to 3-4,only A.H. knows for sure I guess

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I dont want to call Cooley a liar,but why the hell would Haynesworth tell his team mates this?
And from what I remember 90% of the people on this forum thought Haynesworth played pretty damn good his first year here

I don't think anyone disputed his ability at any time. I remember a lot of second guessing about how he was being used and similar discussions. Generally, as I recall, it broke down along the lines, "coaching sucks they aren't using him right" v. "you signed the contract, you do what the coaches want".

Why he tell them? B/c he was an arrogant bastard who didn't care about anyone but himself and knew they would be practically no repercussions. Maybe DS brings a lawsuit, maybe not.

Also, I thought I read he was in bankruptcy ... not sure though.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I dont want to call Cooley a liar,but why the hell would Haynesworth tell his team mates this?
And from what I remember 90% of the people on this forum thought Haynesworth played pretty damn good his first year here

Do you have some info that would contradict what Cooley was exposed to while playing for the team?

[MTK]

AH's actions back up what CC is saying pretty well.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Do you have some info that would contradict what Cooley was exposed to while playing for the team?

Yes I do
Cult Brennan has assured me Cooley is wrong,lol
Cooleys probably telling it like it is,just hard to believe someone would be so stupid as to tell his teammates that
Also haynesworths play his first yr here does not back up what Cooley is saying

[MTK]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

Yes I do
Cult Brennan has assured me Cooley is wrong,lol
Cooleys probably telling it like it is,just hard to believe someone would be so stupid as to tell his teammates that
Also haynesworths play his first yr here does not back up what Cooley is saying

He played ok his first year here, nothing special though. Certainly not up to the level of a guy making $100M. He also had issues that year, questioning the D and Blache (he wasn't happy with the D even before the change to the 3-4), not participating in offseason workouts, etc.

Plus that was when Zorn was here. Once a real coach showed up he really showed his true colors.