47% Will Pay No Federal Income Tax

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Yea, for people actually paying taxes.

They'll still be paying it out of their checks. Of course if they're getting a refund they won't actually owe any at year's end. This is net tax burden.

This makes it hard to take you guys seriously if you can't even understand what you're reading.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I just shake my head....so when things are bad and people need tax breaks (working and middle classes) they shouldnt get them? wow...ive heard it all today

Read my post and you will know thats not what I said. So is it only the middle class that ever works. I always here about the working middle class and never the working lower class or the working upper class.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

LOL...Who's tax policy is in effect?

Obama's

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Don't forget the illegal aleins who not only don't pay taxes, they also send their money back to Mexico, and shack up 30 deep in a 600$ apartment.

Ummm, there are no such thing as illegal aliens they have as much right to live on this land as you do. Says my one vote.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Ummm, there are no such thing as illegal aliens they have as much right to live on this land as you do. Says my one vote.

No, there are laws in effect (as in every country, and piece of land on this planet). Right now there are people who, of their own free will, have chosen to come into this country illegally, and thus become illegal aliens. If you want to talk about our immigration policy fine, I tend to favor open borders, but no matter what, there is always a limit and law in effect guiding the number of residents and new citizens.

Basically, your statement is simply an uninformed and inflammatory statement, regardless of your one vote.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Ummm, there are no such thing as illegal aliens they have as much right to live on this land as you do. Says my one vote.

Federal & State law say differently. You will not be saying that when they're forcing your children out of schools that you paid for. Nor will you be happy when you go to the emergency room and they're in there paying nothing, while you have to wait in line after getting hit by a car. Maybe we can move all of the ones from the South Side into your neighborhood? You and your one vote should be cool with tuberculosis right?

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

A combination of Bush's and Obama's. Bush's main structure is in place, but Obama's refundable credits are also in place allowing many to not only not pay any taxes, but to get additional refunds as well (making work pay, first time home-buyer, etc.).

I'm taking no political position here, just reporting the facts.

I should be clear, tax policy = tax structure. One time tax break in American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 v.s. Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003 that is set to expire at the end of 2010.

In any case, Obama's turn will come and he has indicated he will continue Bush's tax policy for the most part (top income bracket will be ~39%). American people don't want to pay taxes and they're getting and will be getting what they want.

[joethiesmanfan]

I hate the tax situation. I agree with the tax criticism of conservatives, but they sleep with rats and wind up with KKK fleas. If it wasn't for the racist wing of the conservative party you would have me all in. The only peopel getting this money are girls laying up with alot of men then hen they wind up with a baby they wonder why no one wants to marry them. I know one chick who had no idea who her baby father was until the child was three, wasted a bunch of tax payer money on DNA tests for one. nay way she got over 5 thousand dollars back for her tax return. Me, my dumb behind likes working overtime. They say I owe another 1400 plus what they already took out my check. Somebody has got to make an adjustment. This is a white chick for those who gonna start equating black with goverment hand outs. Now she goes to church and wants a husband but she couldve been married if her baby was the same color as her fiancee at the time was. Anyway, now she balling and i'm crawling to the IRS office.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Nearly 22% of those making between $50,000 and $75,000 end up with no federal income tax liability or negative liability as do 9% of households with incomes between $75,000 and $100,000.

Now could someone explain to me how they can have this income and pay nothing and maybe receive a tax credit?

Bush sent me 600 dollars!

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Obama's

and all of this debt comes from policy enacted in February?

[saden1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Nearly 22% of those making between $50,000 and $75,000 end up with no federal income tax liability or negative liability as do 9% of households with incomes between $75,000 and $100,000.

Now could someone explain to me how they can have this income and pay nothing and maybe receive a tax credit?

That's real easy...it's all about children, the more you have the more breaks you get. Having 4 kids, some of which are going to college, a mortgage interest payment of 25K, and 401K investment account will do the trick.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

I hate the tax situation. I agree with the tax criticism of conservatives, but they sleep with rats and wind up with KKK fleas. If it wasn't for the racist wing of the conservative party you would have me all in. The only peopel getting this money are girls laying up with alot of men then hen they wind up with a baby they wonder why no one wants to marry them. I know one chick who had no idea who her baby father was until the child was three, wasted a bunch of tax payer money on DNA tests for one. nay way she got over 5 thousand dollars back for her tax return. Me, my dumb behind likes working overtime. They say I owe another 1400 plus what they already took out my check. Somebody has got to make an adjustment. This is a white chick for those who gonna start equating black with goverment hand outs. Now she goes to church and wants a husband but she couldve been married if her baby was the same color as her fiancee at the time was. Anyway, now she balling and i'm crawling to the IRS office.

Yet you have no problem with the illegals? You get pissed when the whores get tax credits but the locusts feeding off the land you're cool with. Oh yeah Polly, check your history books. Jefferson Davis = Democrat. KKK = formed to kill, lynch, and intimidate blacks and Republicans. So take that racism BS and shove it.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

I'm not mad. I'm jealous. I follow the rules and obey the law. Why is it that everyone else gets a free ride except me? Lower taxes aren't a bad thing but it should be for everyone, not a select few. Now they're (that POS Glenn Beck & Co.) talking about a value added tax. WTF?

I agree, and what about me? My ancestors worked for free, got nothing, it went to other people who got a free socialist ride back in the day before the Civil War (Heritage traditional values). Okay cool, keep the money from my ancestors. So i get a job and go to work only to then get screwed by the tax system. Double screwed for me, where is mine? I don't want the money, all I want is the end of racial profiling can I get that? I pay taxes why am I under pressure?

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Ummm, there are no such thing as illegal aliens they have as much right to live on this land as you do. Says my one vote.

When was that on the ballot?

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

No, there are laws in effect (as in every country, and piece of land on this planet). Right now there are people who, of their own free will, have chosen to come into this country illegally, and thus become illegal aliens. If you want to talk about our immigration policy fine, I tend to favor open borders, but no matter what, there is always a limit and law in effect guiding the number of residents and new citizens.

Basically, your statement is simply an uninformed and inflammatory statement, regardless of your one vote.

Inflammatiory because I don't believe in calling another human being illegal? Illegal in what sense? I keep meeting white South Africans what are they doing here? We annexed half of Mexico? Matter of fact our two largest states were once part of Mexico nearly half of the land nmass of the continental US was annexed from Mexico. People were lalready in thes elands when they became american terrritory. But Mexicnas were pushed out through a campaign of violence similar to what we now call terrorism. Mexicans have the right to live on this land.