Is Springs lacking Heart??

[Swarley]

News & Notes: Springs Doubtful For Browns Game

I believe this is what you were trying to post

anyways, I think to question the heart of a man that is not only dealing with a nagging injury but also the situation with his father is just a bit ignorant.

[DaveyFoSho]

Originally Posted by GreekSkin

News & Notes: Springs Doubtful For Browns Game

I believe this is what you were trying to post

anyways, I think to question the heart of a man that is not only dealing with a nagging injury but also the situation with his father is just a bit ignorant.

If anything his father's situation would prove my point? Perhaps his mind is elsewhere? Christ you post a simple opinion and you get attacked and called ignorant....... Cool.....

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by DaveyFoSho

If anything his father's situation would prove my point? Perhaps his mind is elsewhere? Christ you post a simple opinion and you get attacked and called ignorant....... Cool.....

How so,let me get this right. Due to his father dying and SS has a heavy heart and/or mind you somehow think that has an effect on his injury status or ability to play ball?

IMO it would be vise versa. A release to get on the field and forget about family issues of such serious nature.

[Swarley]

Originally Posted by DaveyFoSho

If anything his father's situation would prove my point? Perhaps his mind is elsewhere? Christ you post a simple opinion and you get attacked and called ignorant....... Cool.....

ok so maybe ignorant was the wrong word but I couldnt think of anything else at the time lol sorry

as for his father's situation proving your point, I really don't follow what you're trying to say.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by DaveyFoSho

If anything his father's situation would prove my point? Perhaps his mind is elsewhere? Christ you post a simple opinion and you get attacked and called ignorant....... Cool.....

It's nothing personal Davey. It's just that we're sitting at 4-2 after 2 big road wins against 2 of our biggest rivals and it seems like every other post is questioning somebody on this team. Springs has missed alot of games and it gets frustrating but I don't think his heart is the issue. Without the turnovers against the Rams, we'd be sitting at 5-1. Not bad for a bunch of heartless-washed up-lost a step-injury prone-slippery handed players who should be cut or benched.

[DaveyFoSho]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

It's nothing personal Davey. It's just that we're sitting at 4-2 after 2 big road wins against 2 of our biggest rivals and it seems like every other post is questioning somebody on this team. Springs has missed alot of games and it gets frustrating but I don't think his heart is the issue. Without the turnovers against the Rams, we'd be sitting at 5-1. Not bad for a bunch of heartless-washed up-lost a step-injury prone-slippery handed players who should be cut or benched.

I lol'd.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by DaveyFoSho

If anything his father's situation would prove my point? Perhaps his mind is elsewhere? Christ you post a simple opinion and you get attacked and called ignorant....... Cool.....

Then your thread should have been "Is Springs Too Distracted to Play" or "Where is Springs' Focus" something along those lines. Because that's a legit discussion. His father is in a coma, he and his wife are going through a divorce (it may be final already), he's dealing with custody issues regarding his kids, his stepmother is battling cancer. That has nothing to do with whether he has heart.

[#56fanatic]

When springs plays our D is that much better. According to reports its a pretty bad strain or the muscle and as a corner or any position for that matter, the calf muscle is pretty important. I would rather him being out now with the bye week coming up than not having him down the stretch. I think with the position we are in right now, and how well the D has played we have that ability to sit him out until he is 100% and have him ready when we get towards the end of the season. To say he lacks heart....not sure how that is warranted.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by DaveyFoSho

If anything his father's situation would prove my point? Perhaps his mind is elsewhere? Christ you post a simple opinion and you get attacked and called ignorant....... Cool.....

dont worry man, your not the only one who thinks one or two players on our 53 man roster lack that certain 110% drive and dedication. but there is no stat for "heart" so unless a player pulls a shawn andrews or michael westbrook then there is no real proof to support your feeling.

i dont think springs is as dedicated to this team as i would like (i demand 110% thoo which you cant reasonably expect from every player) and his feelings that he was going to be cut or released at the end of last season may have some lingering effect as well as he refusing to take a pay cut like the skins asked.

if there were big rumors that your company was going to get rid of you and asked for a pay cut to the point you were saying good bye to your co-workers at the end of the fiscal year, do you think this would play alil bit on your psyche next year?

did we forget the off-season comments between skins and springs? did he not say he didnt think he was coming back next year?

all this said, shawn springs is a professional and comes plays 100% when he is on the field. reasonable minds can disagree on whether he lacks that extra 10% needed to become a team leader and champion.

OP - to make a thread of your type you need to come with more than just gut feelings, unfortunately this topic is subjective and non-quantative so its hard to discuss beyond opinions.

go skins!!!

ps - dont jump on me, like the OP i like springs and believe he plays like a true professional at 100% when some players might lack that professionalism needed after last season.

[SeasonTicketHolder]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

dont worry man, your not the only one who thinks one or two players on our 53 man roster lack that certain 110% drive and dedication. but there is no stat for "heart" so unless a player pulls a shawn andrews or michael westbrook then there is no real proof to support your feeling.

i dont think springs is as dedicated to this team as i would like (i demand 110% thoo which you cant reasonably expect from every player) and his feelings that he was going to be cut or released at the end of last season may have some lingering effect as well as he refusing to take a pay cut like the skins asked.

if there were big rumors that your company was going to get rid of you and asked for a pay cut to the point you were saying good bye to your co-workers at the end of the fiscal year, do you think this would play alil bit on your psyche next year?

did we forget the off-season comments between skins and springs? did he not say he didnt think he was coming back next year?

all this said, shawn springs is a professional and comes plays 100% when he is on the field. reasonable minds can disagree on whether he lacks that extra 10% needed to become a team leader and champion.

OP - to make a thread of your type you need to come with more than just gut feelings, unfortunately this topic is subjective and non-quantative so its hard to discuss beyond opinions.

go skins!!!

ps - dont jump on me, like the OP i like springs and believe he plays like a true professional at 100% when some players might lack that professionalism needed after last season.

good post

[CrazyCanuck]

I'm a big Springs fan as well. With the exception of London (and maybe psycho Horton) he's the best player on our D.

But I have finally come to the realization that he just can't be counted on. Maybe he'll play, maybe he won't...

I think we're best off saving him for the big games. Let him sit against the Clevelands and Detroits of the world, and hopefully he'll be 100% for the big division games down the stretch.

[53Fan]

Thanks GreekSkin.

[Paintrain]

He does seem to have a chronic case of bitchassness.. He has missed 2 divisional games out of 3 and has only played a full 16 games twice since 2000. He's not what one would call 'durable'.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

He does seem to have a chronic case of bitchassness.. He has missed 2 divisional games out of 3 and has only played a full 16 games twice since 2000. He's not what one would call 'durable'.

As somebody pointed out earlier, we NEED to be shopping CB in the offseason and draft (hopefully not before). Whatever the cause, Springs can be counted on no longer

[HipHipHooray]

And my opinion if he only plays two games a year and shuts down TO then I am happy.