Democrats/Unions Lose Big In Wisconsin

[12thMan]

Lotus pretty much nailed. There have only be three gubernatorial recalls in history. One in 1921, Gray Davis in 2003, and Scott Walker.

Anyway, majority of union members still overwhelmingly support the president. That's not going to change between now and election day.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Lotus pretty much nailed. There have only be three gubernatorial recalls in history. One in 1921, Gray Davis in 2003, and Scott Walker.

Anyway, majority of union members still overwhelmingly support the president. That's not going to change between now and election day.

So your saying that 38% of them would vote for a man who has made them pay more money into the system just because they did not support the recall.

[12thMan]

Nearly 60% of union workers still support Obama.

Majority of Union Members Favor Obama; a Third Back Romney

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Nearly 60% of union workers still support Obama.

Majority of Union Members Favor Obama; a Third Back Romney

Well I understand that its the fact that the unions pushed so hard for his recall and still 38% of Union households voted for Walker.

[12thMan]

So what they voted for Walker? All union members aren't Democrats you know.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

So what they voted for Walker? All union members aren't Democrats you know.

Correct I am one, republicain, but there isn't a one worthy I would vote for I honestly feel Obama is better then what the republicans can offer.Unions aren't the down fall of society and they are needed just becuase of idiots like Romney and the fat man in NJ Christy.People like Teachers,Police,Firemen and Nurses ,EMS techs...etc need Unions to be protected from politicians who throw them under the bus as a stop gap to cut cost. Like it or not Unions have help all even though some won't admit it.



Big Corporation: Thank a Union: 36 Ways Unions Have Improved Your Life

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Correct I am one, republicain, but there isn't a one worthy I would vote for I honestly feel Obama is better then what the republicans can offer.Unions aren't the down fall of society and they are needed just becuase of idiots like Romney and the fat man in NJ Christy.People like Teachers,Police,Firemen and Nurses ,EMS techs...etc need Unions to be protected from politicians who throw them under the bus as a stop gap to cut cost. Like it or not Unions have help all even though some won't admit it.



Big Corporation: Thank a Union: 36 Ways Unions Have Improved Your Life

Unions still using that old ass list.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Unions still using that old ass list.

from the Wall Street Journal.....



Unions Can Be a Good Thing – or Not - WSJ.com

[HailGreen28]

If Walker had lost, what would the story have been about?

[dmek25]

i knew i liked something about you giantone

[dmek25]

first, why the hard one towards unions? you dont think they have any value?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by dmek25

first, why the hard one towards unions? you dont think they have any value?

I never said I was against unions. People made this a union against Walker issue so by siding with Walker people assume I'm against unions. I do think they have lost their value over the years and that old ass list is proof.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I never said I was against unions. People made this a union against Walker issue so by siding with Walker people assume I'm against unions. I do think they have lost their value over the years and that old ass list is proof.

LOL really?"OLD ASS LIST.....well go back and read that list and tell me everything that corp America is trying to stop on it, for the better of the country?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Giantone

LOL really?"OLD ASS LIST.....well go back and read that list and tell me everything that corp America is trying to stop on it, for the better of the country?

1. Weekends
2. All Breaks at Work, including your Lunch Breaks
3. Paid Vacation
4. FMLA
5. Sick Leave
6. Social Security
7. Minimum Wage
8. Civil Rights Act/Title VII (Prohibits Employer Discrimination)
9. 8-Hour Work Day
10. Overtime Pay
11. Child Labor Laws
12. Occupational Safety & Health Act (OSHA)
13. 40 Hour Work Week
14. Worker's Compensation (Worker's Comp)
15. Unemployment Insurance
16. Pensions
17. Workplace Safety Standards and Regulations
18. Employer Health Care Insurance
19. Collective Bargaining Rights for Employees
20. Wrongful Termination Laws
21. Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967
22. Whistleblower Protection Laws
23. Employee Polygraph Protect Act (Prohibits Employer from using a lie detector test on an employee)
24. Veteran's Employment and Training Services (VETS)
25. Compensation increases and Evaluations (Raises)
26. Sexual Harassment Laws
27. Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA)
28. Holiday Pay
29. Employer Dental, Life, and Vision Insurance
30. Privacy Rights
31. Pregnancy and Parental Leave
32. Military Leave
33. The Right to Strike
34. Public Education for Children
35. Equal Pay Acts of 1963 & 2011 (Requires employers pay men and women equally for the same amount of work)
36. Laws Ending Sweatshops in the United States

Other then number 31 which others things on the list are not 30 to 40 yrs old. I'm not saying if they are good are bad I'm just saying that list is old stuff they did 30 plus years ago. I think the list is also a stretch of things they accomplished like social security.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by firstdown

1. Weekends
2. All Breaks at Work, including your Lunch Breaks
3. Paid Vacation
4. FMLA
5. Sick Leave
6. Social Security
7. Minimum Wage
8. Civil Rights Act/Title VII (Prohibits Employer Discrimination)
9. 8-Hour Work Day
10. Overtime Pay
11. Child Labor Laws
12. Occupational Safety & Health Act (OSHA)
13. 40 Hour Work Week
14. Worker's Compensation (Worker's Comp)
15. Unemployment Insurance
16. Pensions
17. Workplace Safety Standards and Regulations
18. Employer Health Care Insurance
19. Collective Bargaining Rights for Employees
20. Wrongful Termination Laws
21. Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967
22. Whistleblower Protection Laws
23. Employee Polygraph Protect Act (Prohibits Employer from using a lie detector test on an employee)
24. Veteran's Employment and Training Services (VETS)
25. Compensation increases and Evaluations (Raises)
26. Sexual Harassment Laws
27. Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA)
28. Holiday Pay
29. Employer Dental, Life, and Vision Insurance
30. Privacy Rights
31. Pregnancy and Parental Leave
32. Military Leave
33. The Right to Strike
34. Public Education for Children
35. Equal Pay Acts of 1963 & 2011 (Requires employers pay men and women equally for the same amount of work)
36. Laws Ending Sweatshops in the United States

Other then number 31 which others things on the list are not 30 to 40 yrs old. I'm not saying if they are good are bad I'm just saying that list is old stuff they did 30 plus years ago. I think the list is also a stretch of things they accomplished like social security.

Ok, go back to the list and look though it and tell me what is "out dated" being 30 or 40 years old?