Dustin Hopkins Sucks Post Game Thread

[SolidSnake84]

I wanted Hopkins gone a few years ago when he was blowing kicks regularly.

I'd be happy to see him go now, but like other people have pointed out, everybody else out there is either just as good, or worse...

[skinsfaninok]

The defense was gashed most of this game on the ground, they showed up in the clutch tho.

Offense just sucks, no other way around it. Haskins is bad but he doesn't have many weapons to work it just like Alex doesn't.

Terry , J.D and Logan Thomas are legit the only options.

BTW, How about Thomas?? Holy shit.

Overall, I figured we'd lose by more and I'm glad this team fights in every game.

8-8 and a division crown would be a huge improvement

[GridIron26]

The game went a little better than I thought, I believed we would have lost by 2-3 TDs but the defense did the best they could. They shut down Metcalf (bad for me cuz of FFL) and Lockette, but didn't do a great job of defending against the running game. The offense singlehanded lost this game for us - Haskins's 2 ints hurt us.

If we play Seattle again in playoffs, this time with Smith, I think we would have a good chance of winning the game.

[punch it in]

I still want Alex playing. It is nice that Dwayne finally played one good quarter of football but that is not enough to make me believe he is not a bust.
Also it is nice being a second half team that can make adjustments but what the hell is the problem with our first halves? Are we game planning all wrong? Do we not spend enough time in the film room? It is like the first half is our film. It is not sustainable to always be down two scores nearing half.

[punch it in]

We can blame Hopkins for not being able to make it to OT but let us not forget that if Dwayne doesn’t force two balls into triple coverage down in fg range we win without OT.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by punch it in

We can blame Hopkins for not being able to make it to OT but let us not forget that if Dwayne doesn’t force two balls into triple coverage down in fg range we win without OT.

The 1st INT: They were in FG range, but if Wright doesn't tip that pass, I think Sims either catches it at the 5 yard line, or it's incomplete. That was just unfortunate. Not a bad throw on the run in my opinion.

The 2nd INT: They were not in FG range, unless you think Hopkins is good for a 61 yard FG (nope). He read the CB wrong. He thought Reed was going to stay with McLaurin, but he broke it off and came up to make the INT. I think if he could take it back, he pumps to Sims and hits McLaurin in the end zone for an easy TD; or he just hits Barber in the flat for 5-6 yards.

Neither of those INTs were into triple coverage...

Live and learn. I'm glad he is trying to push the ball down the field. The offense looked better today with Haskins at QB. Out of 10 possessions, six drives were at least 8 plays, five of those going for more than 40 yards. Against the 49ers they had 13 possessions - only TWO drives with at least 8 plays, and only ONE drive of more than 40 yards.

The INTs hurt, but even with those, if Hopkins makes that extra point it's a different game.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

The 1st INT: They were in FG range, but if Wright doesn't tip that pass, I think Sims either catches it at the 5 yard line, or it's incomplete. That was just unfortunate. Not a bad throw on the run in my opinion.



The 2nd INT: They were not in FG range, unless you think Hopkins is good for a 61 yard FG (nope). He read the CB wrong. He thought Reed was going to stay with McLaurin, but he broke it off and came up to make the INT. I think if he could take it back, he pumps to Sims and hits McLaurin in the end zone for an easy TD; or he just hits Barber in the flat for 5-6 yards.



Neither of those INTs were into triple coverage...



Live and learn. I'm glad he is trying to push the ball down the field. The offense looked better today with Haskins at QB. Out of 10 possessions, six drives were at least 8 plays, five of those going for more than 40 yards. Against the 49ers they had 13 possessions - only TWO drives with at least 8 plays, and only ONE drive of more than 40 yards.



The INTs hurt, but even with those, if Hopkins makes that extra point it's a different game.

Im going off word of mouth from the game thread because I had to listen. Also off the announcers take which was that they were both bad decisions but the first pass from what I understand was a risky pass. There was no reason to risk anything. The second may not have been in fg range but we were damn close and it wasn’t a panic situation again. Haskins has had a couple years to live n learn. He should not be pushing the ball down the field in those situations unless he has a clear shot. He stinks. I am shocked that so many are on the DH train still.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Im going off word of mouth but the first pass from what I understand was a risky pass. There was no reason to risk anything. The second may not have been in fg range but we were damn close and it wasn’t a panic situation again. Haskins has had a couple years to live n learn. He should not be pushing the ball down the field in those situations unless he has a clear shot. He stinks. I am shocked that so many are on the DH train still.

He's started 12 games in the NFL. You must be counting his College career.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

He's started 12 games in the NFL. You must be counting his College career.

Im counting that he has had two years to “learn” not sulk on social media. You do not have to start to learn. His footwork is still nonsense. His decision making is still nonsense. His seeing the field is still nonsense. Do you really think he is our quarterback of the future? Would you not change that pick right now if given the choice to do so?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

He's started 12 games in the NFL. You must be counting his College career.

Let's be fair, didn't he only start for one season in college before declaring? The kid is as green as it gets. I tend to agree with the coaches when they say Haskins should be a 5th year senior in college right now because of how little PT he's had.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

The 1st INT: They were in FG range, but if Wright doesn't tip that pass, I think Sims either catches it at the 5 yard line, or it's incomplete. That was just unfortunate. Not a bad throw on the run in my opinion.

The 2nd INT: They were not in FG range, unless you think Hopkins is good for a 61 yard FG (nope). He read the CB wrong. He thought Reed was going to stay with McLaurin, but he broke it off and came up to make the INT. I think if he could take it back, he pumps to Sims and hits McLaurin in the end zone for an easy TD; or he just hits Barber in the flat for 5-6 yards.

Neither of those INTs were into triple coverage...

Live and learn. I'm glad he is trying to push the ball down the field. The offense looked better today with Haskins at QB. Out of 10 possessions, six drives were at least 8 plays, five of those going for more than 40 yards. Against the 49ers they had 13 possessions - only TWO drives with at least 8 plays, and only ONE drive of more than 40 yards.

The INTs hurt, but even with those, if Hopkins makes that extra point it's a different game.

Chief I disagree on the first INT, it was deep into territory with two defenders, and it never should've been thrown. It's what happens when you get frustrated and you try to make a play because you're not willing to take what the defense gives you.

The other beef that I have with Haskins is his progressions, it looks like he only scans half the field on some plays before he dumps it. There was a play in particular where Haskins had a guy running open down the seam but he never even looked in his direction before checking down. Is he being coached to only scan half the field to get the ball out quicker?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mooby

Chief I disagree on the first INT, it was deep into territory with two defenders, and it never should've been thrown. It's what happens when you get frustrated and you try to make a play because you're not willing to take what the defense gives you.



The other beef that I have with Haskins is his progressions, it looks like he only scans half the field on some plays before he dumps it. There was a play in particular where Haskins had a guy running open down the seam but he never even looked in his direction before checking down. Is he being coached to only scan half the field to get the ball out quicker?

I did see some of the game on red zone and there was more than one play where he never even looked left. He had McClaurin in one on one coverage at one point, and he never even looked his way. Just panicked (without pressure really) and checked down. I cannot even believe that DH is being given a pass for his play here. The guy is a fuckin bust. If Alex is healthy he starts. Next year we need a new quarterback.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by mooby

Chief I disagree on the first INT, it was deep into territory with two defenders, and it never should've been thrown. It's what happens when you get frustrated and you try to make a play because you're not willing to take what the defense gives you.

The other beef that I have with Haskins is his progressions, it looks like he only scans half the field on some plays before he dumps it. There was a play in particular where Haskins had a guy running open down the seam but he never even looked in his direction before checking down. Is he being coached to only scan half the field to get the ball out quicker?

Two receivers, two defenders. Not triple coverage, and not a terrible throw on the run. A great interception though.

He does need to work on his progressions...again, 12 NFL starts...

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

The 1st INT: They were in FG range, but if Wright doesn't tip that pass, I think Sims either catches it at the 5 yard line, or it's incomplete. That was just unfortunate. Not a bad throw on the run in my opinion.

The 2nd INT: They were not in FG range, unless you think Hopkins is good for a 61 yard FG (nope). He read the CB wrong. He thought Reed was going to stay with McLaurin, but he broke it off and came up to make the INT. I think if he could take it back, he pumps to Sims and hits McLaurin in the end zone for an easy TD; or he just hits Barber in the flat for 5-6 yards.

Neither of those INTs were into triple coverage...

Live and learn. I'm glad he is trying to push the ball down the field. The offense looked better today with Haskins at QB. Out of 10 possessions, six drives were at least 8 plays, five of those going for more than 40 yards. Against the 49ers they had 13 possessions - only TWO drives with at least 8 plays, and only ONE drive of more than 40 yards.

The INTs hurt, but even with those, if Hopkins makes that extra point it's a different game.

Disagree, terrible decision IMO. 2&8 in a 6 points game, take wide open McKissick right away. And then on the run, I say know who you are and take what you can on the ground. Finally, terrible throw, he needed to lead Wright towards the sideline where only he could catch it.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Disagree, terrible decision IMO. 2&8 in a 6 points game, take wide open McKissick right away. And then on the run, I say know who you are and take what you can on the ground. Finally, terrible throw, he needed to lead Wright towards the sideline where only he could catch it.

Wright wasn't supposed to be there. He breaks to the right when he sees Haskins scramble then does a great pass defense on his own team's throw. Wright basically screwed up the scramble drill. He should have broken towards Haskins to give him a 3rd option instead he made the field congested for Haskins throw.

Edit: looking at it if Wright had moved to around the 15 he would have created a wide open target for Haskins.