Do You Unequivocally Believe RG3 Is Our Franchise QB?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Agreed! I'd say it's better to judge Griffin after he has had a full off season to work on his craft.

And he has a decent team around him.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

And he has a decent team around him.

Agreed. Luck loses his #1 WR and now look at him? 58% completion rating, 15 TD's, lower QB rating than RG3

Also, let's be glad we didn't pay someone so much money that we lost half the team and he's performing like Flacco right now.

RG3 will be fine. He was checking down last night, and looking off the safety. Something he hasn't done well in the past. He'll learn fast, and people will be surprised when the knee brace comes off.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

And he has a decent team around him.

At least some better pass protection.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

This is why it's so mind blowing that so many are ready to write off Griffin as a potential bust or ready to make a change/want a "true QB competition". Not only is the younger but he also has the least experience playing the position in the traditional way and the least time for development due to his injury. I think he's going to take all of this as ammo into next offseason. There's no question inside the building about his dedication, intelligence, acumen and work ethic so given the time and reps, he's poised for a quantum leap next season with proper coaching.

I believe that the way the media piled on Griffin will have the fire in his belly burning so hot that he will be on a mission to prove the critics wrong. If good personnel decisions are made to bolster the OL and the WR corps, I look for Griffin to make a leap similar to what Cam Newton has done this season.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

I believe that the way the media piled on Griffin will have the fire in his belly burning so hot that he will be on a mission to prove the critics wrong. If good personnel decisions are made to bolster the OL and the WR corps, I look for Griffin to make a leap similar to what Cam Newton has done this season.

RG3 brings a lot of it on himself with his massive PR machine. No need to be the constant center of attention on every single thing. Then some of the comments in the pressers don't help either. He's a very intelligent young man. I think he'll tone it down some and learn from this nightmare of a season.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

RG3 brings a lot of it on himself with his massive PR machine. No need to be the constant center of attention on every single thing. Then some of the comments in the pressers don't help either. He's a very intelligent young man. I think he'll tone it down some and learn from this nightmare of a season.

What PR machine? He's a franchise QB, of course he's going to be a constant center of attention no matter what he does.

Did he fly off to Cancun or something with his wife when he should have been preparing for a game or something? Should he turn down offseason work on endorsements? Did he sit on the sidelines pouting with a towel wrapped around his head, instead of being a leader?

I'm not saying RG3 is perfect. I haven't liked everything he said: like nobody would teach him how to play different, and running QBs are losers, the whole "operation patience" thing. I think he should have sat a couple maybe few games at the start of this season. (Not everybody heals the same, and except for Adrian Peterson nobody recovered quicker than RG3 has from that bad an injury.) But for crying out loud, he's been a good QB this season, a great one last season, and he's kept his nose clean and been a credit to the club on and off the field so far. For as bad as he looks compared to last season, as bad as the team is doing, many other posters point out his numbers still compare favorably to lots of starters that aren't getting flak about their play. What more do you guys want from him?

Seriously, I guess we're all ******* in Redskin Nation. Look at the heat Romo gets for devastating INTs, the hate of Brady "douche" and Peyton "dink and dunk" just because they're so good. Those teams and their fans can take the scrutiny. Yet RG3 has a so-so season, and our team and fans just can't seem to handle the heat.

How about a little perspective before we go back to running around in circles with the rest of the Chicken Littles in the media? "The sky is falling! Our team is doomed!"

[GTripp0012]

Luck's numbers are starting to suffer a bit from lack of confidence in his teammates, which as many others have mentioned in this thread, is something Griffin has been dealing with right from the very first play of the season.

[The Goat]

I feel like a broken record, but it needs to be made plain once a day lol...

Give RG a decent pass-blocking line, another downfield target or two, and I have no doubt he's a top QB next season.

The only reason to be concerned about RG is injury. He's had too many already, and any half-wit can recognize this crap offensive scheme (RO, small olinemen getting trucked, piss-poor playcalling that lets the defense get a jump on the ball) puts RG at more risk than he should be. If there's ANY valid argument for sitting RG, it's on the GM to "save" him from the shit show we see on gameday. Tough call to make though, glad it's not on me lol.

[diehardskin2982]

Redskins don't seem to get the favorable calls that you speak off. The Refs don't protect our QB or give calls to our WRs.

[MTK]

It's mind numbing that some continue to focus in on the read option like it's the entire offense, when it reality it's a just play we might run a handful of times per game.

I like what Chip Kelly recently said about it:

Cardinals coach Bruce Arians recently called the read-option offense a “great college offense.” Eagles coach Chip Kelly doesn’t see that as a slap at his approach, because Kelly doesn’t think he runs the read-option offense.

“I don’t think it’s an offense,” Kelly told reporters on Thursday. “I think it’s a play. And we don’t run read option if you want to get really technical. We run a zone read play every once in awhile. It’s like saying our offense is a power offense because we run the power play. Or the old Green Bay Packers, their offense was the Green Bay sweep offense and it isn’t. Everybody’s got a bunch of plays they run offensively, whether everybody’s got a quick game, everybody’s got screen, everybody’s got drop back, everybody’s got out‑of‑pocket, power, counter, inside zone. I never looked at it as an offense.”

Chip Kelly dubs his attack the “See Coast Offense” | ProFootballTalk

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

It's mind numbing that some continue to focus in on the read option like it's the entire offense, when it reality it's a just play we might run a handful of times per game.

I like what Chip Kelly recently said about it:

Cardinals coach Bruce Arians recently called the read-option offense a “great college offense.” Eagles coach Chip Kelly doesn’t see that as a slap at his approach, because Kelly doesn’t think he runs the read-option offense.

“I don’t think it’s an offense,” Kelly told reporters on Thursday. “I think it’s a play. And we don’t run read option if you want to get really technical. We run a zone read play every once in awhile. It’s like saying our offense is a power offense because we run the power play. Or the old Green Bay Packers, their offense was the Green Bay sweep offense and it isn’t. Everybody’s got a bunch of plays they run offensively, whether everybody’s got a quick game, everybody’s got screen, everybody’s got drop back, everybody’s got out‑of‑pocket, power, counter, inside zone. I never looked at it as an offense.”

Chip Kelly dubs his attack the “See Coast Offense” | ProFootballTalk

Yea a play that I believe was ran 12% of the time somehow defined an entire offense.

People make it sound like the Skins are Auburn or Georgia Tech.

[MTK]

And lining up receivers or tight ends in the backfield is a problem? I saw Jimmy Graham lining up in New Orleans' backfield the other night.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

And lining up receivers or tight ends in the backfield is a problem? I saw Jimmy Graham lining up in New Orleans' backfield the other night.

Yea Sean Payton is an idiot too than I suppose.

The only thing I would like to see completely removed is that pitch option. Every time I see that I cringe because I am scared for the day where RG3 pitches it as he is getting hit, exposing his body, and then doesn't get up.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Yea Sean Payton is an idiot too than I suppose.

The only thing I would like to see completely removed is that pitch option. Every time I see that I cringe because I am scared for the day where RG3 pitches it as he is getting hit, exposing his body, and then doesn't get up.

Yeah, I like the pitch option in theory on the defensive end. But seems like by the time RG3 reaches a LB or secondary guy at the LOS to make a pitch option, he's already too close to the sideline to do much good.

[Green Monk Machine]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Yea Sean Payton is an idiot too than I suppose.

The only thing I would like to see completely removed is that pitch option. Every time I see that I cringe because I am scared for the day where RG3 pitches it as he is getting hit, exposing his body, and then doesn't get up.

Jesus Christ. Payton is the best coach in the NFL. What if Jimmy Graham ran a pitch option? would that be ok with you? Has Payton not called it? Does that mean he is intelligent? b/c your jumping in the conversation and adding stink like a butthole.

And don't worry about the pitch option play and Robert getting hurt b/c in the past and as the WP scholars have pointed out, he doesn't get hurt in RO, only on scrambles.