Ocho Cinco In B&G

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by Darrell_Green_28

how can that be possible? hes not a free agent and still is under contract with the bengals.. have we made a trade thats not being posted or talked about?

Sometimes a team and a prospective player will agree to a contract in principle in order to facillitate a trade. Could be one of those situations...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

Sometimes a team and a prospective player will agree to a contract in principle in order to facillitate a trade. Could be one of those situations...

Right, we had a contract in place for Briggs too before a trade fell through.

[Meks]

this year he's un-restricted tho so.... no worries he is ours.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Meks

this year he's un-restricted tho so.... no worries he is ours.

Briggs you mean?

Yeah, I think it's a lock he'll be here.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Briggs you mean?

Yeah, I think it's a lock he'll be here.

Yeah Briggs I have a feeling will be wearing the B&G next season.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Briggs you mean?

Yeah, I think it's a lock he'll be here.

I thought so too until I heard that the Dolphins may be interested in him and have $40M in cap space. I don't know if that report (I believe it was on ESPN) was based on speculation, rumor, or inside information. But, if true, it will be hard for us to compete with the Fins. Usually, Danny gets what he or his coaches want, but other teams flush with cap space can front load contracts to take advantage of the cap space, make the contract more palatable to free agents, and to deny teams like the Redskins the ability to match such offers.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I thought so too until I heard that the Dolphins may be interested in him and have $40M in cap space. I don't know if that report (I believe it was on ESPN) was based on speculation, rumor, or inside information. But, if true, it will be hard for us to compete with the Fins. Usually, Danny gets what he or his coaches want, but other teams flush with cap space can front load contracts to take advantage of the cap space, make the contract more palatable to free agents, and to deny teams like the Redskins the ability to match such offers.

Blache was the DC in Chicago for Briggs' rookie season. Hopefully they have a good relationship and that may trump a bigger payday from Miami.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Blanche was the DC in Chicago for Briggs' rookie season. Hopefully they have a good relationship and that may trump a bigger payday from Miami.

True good point. Plus the Dolphins are coming off a 1-15 season and are definitely in rebuilding mode. That takes away some of the appeal especially if the money is close.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Briggs you mean?

Yeah, I think it's a lock he'll be here.

Why do you think it's a lock?? Are we just going to forget about Rocky and Blades? At this point Briggs is just looking for a huge payday and I'm sure there are teams out there that have a lot more $ than we do.

I'm being funny here but why does everyone around here have a hard on for Lance Briggs? I just don't see what all the hoopla is all about. He's a nice player but I certainly would not break the bank for Briggs.

[MTK]

Rocky had bad knees even before this latest injury. I'm not sure he can ever be counted on.

Blades might be a nice find but Briggs is easily the better player right now.

Briggs and the Skins had a deal in place before the trade fell through. I'm sure there is still interest from both sides. Briggs wants out, Chicago has indicated they aren't interested in bringing him back, do the math.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Meks

i wouldnt give up moss for CJ ...

I would. I said this last year and got killed for saying it but SM is a nice #2 NFL wr. Nothing more and nothing less. He is not a #1. CJ is a number one NFL wr and his production speaks for itself. However I'm very skeptical about giving up a first round draft pick for him.

[Drift Reality]

I'm really sorry to be a hater but the problem with the Redskins is that our owner and his monkey boy might as well be participants in this forum because I'm sure they'd love nothing more than to give Chad Johnson a 15 million dollar signing bonus and lock him up for the next five years (or two - until they renegotiate his contract).

We currently have over 13 million in salary for 2008 locked up in 3 wide receivers - even if Lloyd is cut, the cap hit will be substantial and we are still talking about a big chunk of our cap being devoted to wide receivers.

No offense to all the people who are getting a hard-on for #85 but are you insane?

I don't understand why we are talking about Briggs and Chad Johnson when year after year, the teams that are winning super bowls are following such a different personnel model than the Redskins.

We are talking about teams that draft well, sign free agents for below market value, cultivate their own talent.

Why are we still talking about signing two guys who we are going to pay above market for - and in the process, sacrifice depth at other - more vital - positions.

Personally, I would rather use the finances to build depth on our lines and focus on the draft. Let someone else blow up their cap to sign this over-priced free agent.

[MTK]

I'm not totally against trading for CJ, but I'm not thrilled about it either, I guess I'm on the fence with him. I don't agree with the way he's handled himself lately, it's obvious he really wants out of Cincy but he's gone a bit overboard with his behavior.

My thinking is this, we need a true #1 WR. Moss is not the guy. Drafted WRs typically do not make an instant impact and can sometimes take a few years to develop, and this draft doesn't have any WRs that really excite anyone. A WR is a position that I think is worth trading for. Hell I think it's the Bengals that need to worry about getting fair value for him. He's definitely one of the top WRs in the game and has 6 straight seasons of 1000+.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'm being funny here but why does everyone around here have a hard on for Lance Briggs? I just don't see what all the hoopla is all about. He's a nice player but I certainly would not break the bank for Briggs.

IMO LB is a pretty big need area for us and he is the best out there. As Matty said, Rocky's knees are questionable at best. Washington isn't getting any younger and has had recent injuries, Fletcher is solid but not a young player and I'm not sure if any changes Blache will implement to the defense will fit him. Blades is unproven.

If we could bring in Briggs, it upgrades us immediately and we don't lose anything other than $$$/cap space. This is a much more prudent signing than CJ would be.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

IMO LB is a pretty big need area for us and he is the best out there. As Matty said, Rocky's knees are questionable at best. Washington isn't getting any younger and has had recent injuries, Fletcher is solid but not a young player and I'm not sure if any changes Blanche will implement to the defense will fit him. Blades is unproven.

If we could bring in Briggs, it upgrades us immediately and we don't lose anything other than $$$/cap space. This is a much more prudent signing than CJ would be.

I agree with you there. It makes much more sense than it did last year that's for sure.