2022 Commanders off season thread part 1

[MTK]

The idea that we're not close... well we're certainly not getting any closer dicking around with the likes of Heinicke or someone like Jimmy G.

I think Ron knows they need to swing for the fences at QB this offseason.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Agree. There is so much up in the air in the NFC right now. TB will take a step back. NO is in a state of transition. GB might have the best QB in the NFC but will be losing a lot of talent. AZ is always a question mark after October. There are plenty of playoff teams that are not close. I don't see LA having two consecutive years of career year success for so many players and they are clearly top of the heap in NFC.

[skinsfaninok]

You cant keep saying "we are not that close" A franchise QB makes you close

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

You cant keep saying "we are not that close" A franchise QB makes you close

Just ask the Bengals.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

Just ask the Bengals.

Yep, sure they have Chase but without Burrow they would still suck

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

You cant keep saying "we are not that close" A franchise QB makes you close

A franchise QB makes us a playoff team. We don't have a good enough defense to go real far.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

A franchise QB makes us a playoff team. We don't have a good enough defense to go real far.

The Bengals defense was Horrible last yr.. A QB can change everything. I know it sounds desperate but its a fact

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

The Bengals defense was Horrible last yr.. A QB can change everything. I know it sounds desperate but its a fact

You're grasping. They have an elite offense to overcome it. They have studs at every skill position.

Remember when we played the Bengals in Burrow's rookie year? The only reason we won that game cause Burrow got hurt. We couldn't stop them and that was before they drafted Chase.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You're grasping. They have an elite offense to overcome it. They have studs at every skill position.

Remember when we played the Bengals in Burrow's rookie year? The only reason we won that game cause Burrow got hurt. We couldn't stop them and that was before they drafted Chase.

We have studs at every skill position other than QB. Put a Joe Burrow type QB in this offense and it's every bit as good as the Bengals'.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

A franchise QB makes us a playoff team. We don't have a good enough defense to go real far.

Even if you have a good defense without a QB it is irrelevant. The Bears had a great D in the aughts went to a Super Bowl with Grossman but were constantly in a struggle to make the playoffs. Same with Denver. A good D gets you to a place where some years you'll win 10 some years you'll lose 10. Nothing special.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

A franchise QB makes us a playoff team. We don't have a good enough defense to go real far.

It isn’t like the choice is
A ) get a franchise quarterback
B) address the defense and roll with TH

We can get a franchise quarterback and still upgrade our D thru the draft and or FA.

We get a safety and some linebacker help and our D will be vastly improved. Don’t have to be all pro’s either just above average guys. Our D was improving last year, but we also were missing Sweat and CY for huge amounts of time. Im counting on CY coming back strong, getting some new blood, and maybe Davis taking a step forward in year two. We have continuity in the coaching ranks which should help also. We get Russ, and we are a contender even with last years team. But we also will be getting some new blood thru picks and FA. Don’t underestimate what a franchise quarterback can do for a team though. We see it all the time, it is just never us.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by punch it in

It isn’t like the choice is
A ) get a franchise quarterback
B) address the defense and roll with TH

We can get a franchise quarterback and still upgrade our D thru the draft and or FA.

We get a safety and some linebacker help and our D will be vastly improved. Don’t have to be all pro’s either just above average guys. Our D was improving last year, but we also were missing Sweat and CY for huge amounts of time. Im counting on CY coming back strong, getting some new blood, and maybe Davis taking a step forward in year two. We have continuity in the coaching ranks which should help also. We get Russ, and we are a contender even with last years team. But we also will be getting some new blood thru picks and FA. Don’t underestimate what a franchise quarterback can do for a team though. We see it all the time, it is just never us.

But again if you are Seattle why would you trade a top QB? Someone give me one legit reason why they'd do it? What do they gain by trading him? Picks that hit less than 50%? They have any old coach. They ain't rebuilding w/ a rookie in a weak QB class. Wilson is out.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

But again if you are Seattle why would you trade a top QB? Someone give me one legit reason why they'd do it? What do they gain by trading him? Picks that hit less than 50%? They have any old coach. They ain't rebuilding w/ a rookie in a weak QB class. Wilson is out.

Because Wilson seems to want out and only stupid/dysfunctional franchise would drag a situation like this out. And Pete Carroll is established enough that the team would give him the time to rebuild.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

But again if you are Seattle why would you trade a top QB? Someone give me one legit reason why they'd do it? What do they gain by trading him? Picks that hit less than 50%? They have any old coach. They ain't rebuilding w/ a rookie in a weak QB class. Wilson is out.

Well that is another story. But usually where there is smoke…..

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

But again if you are Seattle why would you trade a top QB? Someone give me one legit reason why they'd do it? What do they gain by trading him? Picks that hit less than 50%? They have any old coach. They ain't rebuilding w/ a rookie in a weak QB class. Wilson is out.

I tend to agree with you, but there is a price for everything. Everyone has that point where the offer is too much to refuse, and DS is the type of guy that will go there.