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[Giantone]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Energy policy can and does effect the price of gas. Biden's anti domestic petroleum policies were one of the key factors in driving up the cost of gas and inflation as a whole over the past three years.

Not true.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Not true.

Wow that in depth response completely debunked my point. Congratulations.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Energy policy can and does effect the price of gas. Biden's anti domestic petroleum policies were one of the key factors in driving up the cost of gas and inflation as a whole over the past three years.

OPEC is going into a death spiral – because of China
https://news.yahoo.com/opec-going-de...160000924.html


Watch what Saudi Arabia does, not what it says.

Saudi and OPEC officials self-evidently do not believe their own claim that world oil demand will keep growing briskly for another generation as if electric vehicles had never been invented, and there was no such thing as the Paris Accord.

OPEC had to slash output last October in order to shore up prices. It had to cut again in April. The Saudis then stunned traders with a unilateral cut of one million barrels a day (b/d) in June.

All told, the OPEC-Russia cartel has had to take 2m b/d of production off the table at a high point in the economic cycle, after China’s post-Covid reopening and at a time when the US economy has been running hot with a fiscal expansion roughly equal to Roosevelt’s world war budget.

That 2m b/d figure happens to be more or less the amount of crude currently being displaced by EV sales worldwide, according to Bloomberg New Energy Finance.
Talk of peak oil demand is “withering under scrutiny”, said Saudi Aramco chief, Amin Nasser.

Consumption will ratchet up from 102m b/d to 110m b/d by 2030, and rise further until 2035 before stabilising at a high plateau through to mid-century.

This skips over the awkward detail that EVs are already on track to reach 60pc of total car sales in the world’s biggest car market within two years (not a misprint).

The cartel is being hit from two sides. Petrol and diesel cars are becoming more efficient, gradually displacing 1.4bn vintage models disappearing into the scrap yard. BP says that alone will cut up to a tenth global oil demand by 2040.

With a lag, EVs are now starting to take a material bite, with an S-curve trajectory likely to go parabolic this decade.

China’s EVs sales hit 38pc this summer, even though subsidies have mostly been scrapped. This is far ahead of schedule under Beijing’s New Energy Vehicle Industry Development Plan.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by Giantone

OPEC is going into a death spiral – because of China
https://news.yahoo.com/opec-going-de...160000924.html


Watch what Saudi Arabia does, not what it says.

Saudi and OPEC officials self-evidently do not believe their own claim that world oil demand will keep growing briskly for another generation as if electric vehicles had never been invented, and there was no such thing as the Paris Accord.

OPEC had to slash output last October in order to shore up prices. It had to cut again in April. The Saudis then stunned traders with a unilateral cut of one million barrels a day (b/d) in June.

All told, the OPEC-Russia cartel has had to take 2m b/d of production off the table at a high point in the economic cycle, after China’s post-Covid reopening and at a time when the US economy has been running hot with a fiscal expansion roughly equal to Roosevelt’s world war budget.

That 2m b/d figure happens to be more or less the amount of crude currently being displaced by EV sales worldwide, according to Bloomberg New Energy Finance.
Talk of peak oil demand is “withering under scrutiny”, said Saudi Aramco chief, Amin Nasser.

Consumption will ratchet up from 102m b/d to 110m b/d by 2030, and rise further until 2035 before stabilising at a high plateau through to mid-century.

This skips over the awkward detail that EVs are already on track to reach 60pc of total car sales in the world’s biggest car market within two years (not a misprint).

The cartel is being hit from two sides. Petrol and diesel cars are becoming more efficient, gradually displacing 1.4bn vintage models disappearing into the scrap yard. BP says that alone will cut up to a tenth global oil demand by 2040.

With a lag, EVs are now starting to take a material bite, with an S-curve trajectory likely to go parabolic this decade.

China’s EVs sales hit 38pc this summer, even though subsidies have mostly been scrapped. This is far ahead of schedule under Beijing’s New Energy Vehicle Industry Development Plan.

I don't think you understand your whole post supports my point.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

https://news.yahoo.com/fact-sake-pre...164658259.html


NBC
For Fact’s Sake: The president does not set the price of gas


Republican presidential candidate and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis fed his supporters a false promise: that he would deliver $2 gas if he wins in 2024. For Fact’s Sake, Ali Velshi explains why the president of this country does not have the power to tip the scales of the global oil market. No matter how much Ron DeSantis cries "woke" over President Joe Biden’s energy policy, $2 gas isn’t going to happen just because he says so.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...ses-us-history

Biden admin proposes plan to hold fewest offshore oil drilling leases in US history
Biden admin proposes three oil and gas lease sales in the Gulf of Mexico, but rejects possible Alaska sale

[BaltimoreSkins]

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/...unity-district

You know what they say Alabama third time is a charm. So the state has taken the exact same congressional map to the US Supreme Court twice in between they held a federal election with these illegal congressional maps and guess what? Those people are serving in congress, getting paid and making laws that govern all of us. What is Alabama's rationale to even comply if they are allowed to just ignore court rulings and have elections?

[Giantone]

Growing Number of Democrat's want Menendez to resign but very few Republics are asking George Santos to leave, why is that?


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kevin...b087c523200e9d



Kevin McCarthy Wanted Bob Menendez To Resign Until Someone Mentioned George Santos
The House speaker wanted the New Jersey senator to resign, but he changed his mind after someone asked why he hadn't asked Santos to do the same.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Growing Number of Democrat's want Menendez to resign but very few Republics are asking George Santos to leave, why is that?


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kevin...b087c523200e9d



Kevin McCarthy Wanted Bob Menendez To Resign Until Someone Mentioned George Santos
The House speaker wanted the New Jersey senator to resign, but he changed his mind after someone asked why he hadn't asked Santos to do the same.

Because Trump and MAGA have corrupted the party. That said given historical patterns the Dems wouldn't be calling on Menendez to resign if the modern GOP didn't find itself in the situation with Santos and Trump that they are in. (Dems don't want to undermine their actions against the more important GOP criminal elements by supporting their own criminals which given historical patterns they would have done - ie Ted Kennedy).

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Because Trump and MAGA have corrupted the party. That said given historical patterns the Dems wouldn't be calling on Menendez to resign if the modern GOP didn't find itself in the situation with Santos and Trump that they are in. (Dems don't want to undermine their actions against the more important GOP criminal elements by supporting their own criminals which given historical patterns they would have done - ie Ed Kennedy).

LOL," historical patterns". We're dealing with now, not a half a century ago. . It's Ted Kennedy.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Because Trump and MAGA have corrupted the party. That said given historical patterns the Dems wouldn't be calling on Menendez to resign if the modern GOP didn't find itself in the situation with Santos and Trump that they are in. (Dems don't want to undermine their actions against the more important GOP criminal elements by supporting their own criminals which given historical patterns they would have done - ie Ted Kennedy).

You're overthinking this nonniey. It is so fucking simple - he's got history with previous charges against him, his house is chock full of bribery payouts, he's the head of the Senate foreign relations committee so he holds tremendous influence. There's more red flags here than in China. If he's guilty (which I believe he is) he needs to be locked up and removed from office. It's that simple. Corrupt politicians are bad. Don't overthink this.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by mooby

You're overthinking this nonniey. It is so fucking simple - he's got history with previous charges against him, his house is chock full of bribery payouts, he's the head of the Senate foreign relations committee so he holds tremendous influence. There's more red flags here than in China. If he's guilty (which I believe he is) he needs to be locked up and removed from office. It's that simple. Corrupt politicians are bad. Don't overthink this.

Not really over thinking this at all. The first time he got indicted the Dems supported him even reelected him - now switch to today different circumstance. The thing I hate with what has happened to the GOP is they used to not elect/reelect/support their criminals when it became known they were criminals - that was a Dem thing to do. Trump and MAGA changed all that (to such a degree that it is mind boggling). (Examples would be Ollie North - lost enough GOP support that he lost in Red Virginia at the time, Nixon - H Baker and other GOPs politicians told him to resign or they would support impeachment).

[nonniey]

delete dup post (accidently quoted self instead of edit choice.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Growing Number of Democrat's want Menendez to resign but very few Republics are asking George Santos to leave, why is that?


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kevin...b087c523200e9d



Kevin McCarthy Wanted Bob Menendez To Resign Until Someone Mentioned George Santos
The House speaker wanted the New Jersey senator to resign, but he changed his mind after someone asked why he hadn't asked Santos to do the same.

Democrats only support this because Phil is the Democrat governor of Jersey and would replace him with a democrat

That’s literally the only reason Dems are calling for him to resign

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Democrats only support this because Phil is the Democrat governor of Jersey and would replace him with a democrat

That’s literally the only reason Dems are calling for him to resign

In NJ do you really think it matters? In a special election it would still be a democrat. Still not hearing too much support from Senate democrats

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Democrats only support this because Phil is the Democrat governor of Jersey and would replace him with a democrat

That’s literally the only reason Dems are calling for him to resign

BS.